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Thread: Are certain historic battles just impossible in the RTW engine?
QuintusSertorius 12:35 06-11-2008
I'm looking over some of the Roman victories over numerically superior opponents; those like Tigranocerta, Watling Street, Alesia, Aquae Sextiae, and many others, and thinking about how you could do them. Only I don't think the RTW engine would allow for that kind of numerical superiority being beaten by well-used infantry (let's forget about horse-archer armies).

In Huge unit scale, you're basically looking at 1:10. So for example doing Tigranocerta, Lucullus would have 1100 men, against Tigranes 20000. One barely half-strength Roman stack against about four Hai ones.

Are such things possible?

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polluxlm 13:32 06-11-2008
One half strength against 10 full Hai you mean?

Unless terrain allows for it, I don't see it happening.

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QuintusSertorius 13:35 06-11-2008
Originally Posted by polluxlm:
One half strength against 10 full Hai you mean?
Given most of Tigraine's army were levies and peasants, you'd get more than 2000 men in a stack. You can get close to 4000 (20 x 200-man units) in one stack, so you'd need five or six. More than my guess-timate four, but nowhere near as many as 10.

Originally Posted by polluxlm:
Unless terrain allows for it, I don't see it happening.
But yeah, I'm with you here. *le sigh*

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Dutchhoplite 13:37 06-11-2008
I don't think Tigranes had 200000+ men in his army ;)

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QuintusSertorius 13:39 06-11-2008
Originally Posted by Dutchhoplite:
I don't think Tigranes had 200000+ men in his army ;)
It was still "a lot". As in a lot more than Lucullus' 11,000.

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polluxlm 14:00 06-11-2008
What is the record for beating multiple armies?

I've done 3 or 4, but not all at the same time though. They usually just send 1 or 2, then keep the rest in reserve.

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Gaivs 14:16 06-11-2008
Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius:
It was still "a lot". As in a lot more than Lucullus' 11,000.
I reckon Lucullus is probably one of the most, if not the most, underated Roman general ever. Pompey just stole his glory, pompey was a nothing.

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