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How has Barack Obama become black? He is what the census bureau would define as someone reporting two or more races as his father was an African immagrant and his mom was a white lady from Kansas. After his parents divorced he moved to Indonesia then Hawii where he graduated high school. The hardly compares with many if any of the 50 million blacks in the US even his father who was black had a complety diffrent experince seeing as he was well educated and coming from another country. Hawii Indonesia and Occedential all have low figures for African Americans Indonesia having nearly none. Hawii floating around the 2-3% range and Occidential having a nearly 80% cuacasion rate when Obama went there with many of the minorty spots being filled by Asians. So by the time he graduated college Obamas life experince was nothing like that of the poor rual Alabama farmer or the steel worker from Indiana. He was raised by his white mother and his white grandparents and people called him Barry. So why does black America see him as one of them when he really isnt. I dont know wether its a damn good pr job by his people or what but he sure has duped allot of people balck and white alike.

I agree, he is not black, he is African American. In the literal sense

his father was he is not.

Well, you didn't get my pun.
African. American. Get it?

For once someone who is "African American".

The term is not that helpful as everyone uses it to avoid "black" or "mixed race" for reasons I can't understand. Why are "Americans" white, and everyone else has to have a qualifier for them?

Duped people? The information is widely available. He's not hiding it. If people vote for someone based on the colour of skin they deserve to loose their rights to the vote.

Poor subject - one's background is only as important as one wants to make it. I perfer to judge who I vote for by what they have accomplished or not, versus what color their skin is or who their parents are.

Who cares that is mother was of European decent and his father was of African decent - he is still an American who meets the qualifications to run for President. Does that mean he is the best candidate for the job remains to be seen.

People who point to race as an issue are people I normally have problems with. His skin color could be purple or green for all I care. I want to know where he stands on issues, how he wants to steer the nation, and other important factors on running the country. Not some stupid standard about skin color and what race he is.

He is an American by birth - his parents come from different backgrounds, and he was raised in priviledge so has the Republican candidate been raised in priviledge.

Normally it wouldn't be an issue, but he did bring it up quite a bit along the trail and show ads of his Kenyan relatives and his American relatives speak about him and the media continually putting him forward as the "black candidate" and "historical president" etc.
I guess people are drawn to sensationalism. And overall, people seem to vote by skin color as well. The minority voters anyway.

The problem is he has made it in issue. He chooses not celebrate his diversity but panders by calming he is black. The problem is not his race it is his exploitation. The problem is people want to vote for the man simply becuase he is different not becuase of his polices. They seem him and thinks he can indentify with them but he cant.

If people can go around calling him "black" they can also go around calling him "white" with the same legitimacy. Obama wishes he was black, he has spent his entire adult life chasing that dream. I don't know what to think about that.

There are relatively few Americans of pure African descent. Invariably there is some "cream in the coffee" somewhere in the family history. Why shouldn't Obama join in?

Most blacks i've met are clearly hybrids. Not too many whites, though - probably because we were never enslaved or legally raped by black slave masters

The problem isnt his race it is his explotation of the poor minorites by claiming he knows what there going through when he doesnt know jack.

Then address his pandering of social status not his skin color. I understand that arguement not the one about the color of his skin.

Race is a pretty flimsy construct no matter how you look at it, Strike. If some people are voting for Obama because they think he's black, I'm sure they will be counter-balanced by people who vote against him 'cause they think he's black.

As for the evil sneakiness of Obama claiming to be black, I'll just say that by the standards of usage in the USA, it's not unfair for him to call himself black. Well within the norms of language and custom.

How about 300 years of 'single drop of blood' policy? One drop = black. Indiscriminately. As the etnic map of America becomes ever more intricate, so the sillyness of it only increases.
What's funny though, is that Barack is probably etnically closer related to average Afro-Americans through his white mother's side, than through his Kenyan father's side.

Also, I know green-eyed North Africans, and there are near black Middle-Easterners too. What would they be if they emigrated to America? African-American and Asian respectively? The reverse - the African would be white and the Asian black?

There are almost two points in your post. Apart from his etnic roots, you repeat the oft heard point that Obama grew up in a somewhat succesful, middle-class environment and therefore lacks the 'black' experience. Well some whites did not grow up as priviliged as Bush did, which somehow does not mean they don't share a heritage with him either. And similarly, some blacks grow up in middle-class conditions. Which does not make them less black. (No matter how much the victim industry wants to perpetuate poverty by defining black as underpriviliged)

And in our hearts, we are all orange.

Which recent President does?

Nice quote, SFTS.

A smaller font might look classier, though.

But he uses his race as his breadwinner. Im not saying its bad hes black or white or any color. Im saying he isnt what he presents himslef as and the public seems to slurp it up without reasearch or question. I DONT CARE ABOUT THE MANS SKIN

Smaller = classier? You're talking to a Texan here! Size determines class to them.

What are you referring to specifically?


He's black in the sense that racists don't care if one of your parents was white. Historically mixed race people have been discriminated against just as much as unmixed, so his nomination is historical. Duh.

Would that mean that a texan who was so fat that his house had its chassis collapse could be viewed as their equivalent of royalty ?

Who cares? If the man wants to consider himself black, I don't give a damn. Besides, I'm pretty sure he hasn't said that. He even said, to an NBC news camera, that Obama is one asterisk away from being an irish name.

But Obama is Irish , he is a narrowback of the biffo flavour

My main problem is this. The man claims to be new and diffrent when he is just more of the same lying cheating Washington we know. So why are people drawn to him?

Mebbe 'cause after the last seven years, a competent, charismatic, non-ideologue sounds like gold?

but he is just more of the same...

That's what I like about McCain: Absolutely no ambiguity there. He is without a doubt one if the whitest guys in the world...

So competence is a non-factor when it comes to governing?

Skin color is not the issue here.

Bush:conservative
Obama:liberal

sfts says: same thing!

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