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    What really causes unrest? I mean, does unrest have a chain-ability - does it spread from town to town. Cos' I'm playing Seleucids, and even in 190 BC, Ecbatana, Apameia, Hecatompylos, Asaak and Zadrakata all SUDDENLY go red with unrest, even though they have been happy for the last three decades??? One of them could be explained by the death of a nice governor, but all of them? Hardly... Also, Ecbatana once simply REVOLTED with no warning - no previous turns of ordinary riots. Now it may have been in the red for a few turns (ruling from Cyrene to Gava-Haomavarge on a slow computer, you don't check every city every turn, but merely fix the rioting ones), but it definently HADN'T been rioting - it just SUDDENLY expelled my garrison - and that despite being a province I had had all game long, posseissing a rather large garrison and being located much closer to my capitol than cities like Gava-Haomavarga, Chach and Axum, all of which remained perfectly obedient.
    So for some reason 'unrest' just suddenly flares up in the middle of your empire. Now all other complaints (cultural penalty, distance to capitol, etc.) I can see the explanation for, just like unrest in newly conquered places makes sense. But is unrest within your boundaries just completely random or is there some reason why a city like Ecbatana just gets 80% unrest out of the blue (of course, it might have gotten it over a few turns, seeing as I didn't keep an eye on it, but WHY did it get it)?
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    Default Re: Unrest

    Enemy spies perhaps, or governors traits may have changed over those turns.
    Last edited by johnhughthom; 06-11-2008 at 22:32.

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    Hey, hadn't thought of that... Will put up some spies. Well, Apameia, Zadrakata and Asaak didn't even HAVE governors - they were all yellow or green and doing fine and all my FM's are off doing stupid things like marching for decades into Arabia or Armenia and then never bothering to go home again. But it just occurred to me that unrest might be able to spread. It feels like there's decades where NOBODY riots, and then there's decades where EVERYBODY riots (and we're not talking newly-conquered, but the same people who didn't riot in the previous decade and whose conditions haven't changed very much). Also sometimes, when a newly conquered province riots, I get the feeling that it spreads to nearby not-so-nearly conquered provinces.

    But all this may just be coincidence and me being paranoid
    Moreover, I advise that Syracusans must be added to EB (insp. by Cato the Elder )

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    Default Re: Unrest

    Actually that would be awesome and realistic. But it doesn't work that way in RTW, you can see a breakdown of unrest causes in the settlement details. You're going to get occasional problems from population size, and sometimes it happens several places at once.

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    As a matter of course, you should have at least one spy in every settlement. Even moreso those bordering enemy territory, or those desired by certain factions.
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    Well, it happens to ME and I can tell you, it AINT awesome
    Moreover, I advise that Syracusans must be added to EB (insp. by Cato the Elder )

    Is looking forward to the 2090's, when EB 20.0 will be released - spanning the entire Eurasian continent and having no Eleutheroi - with a faction for every independent state instead. Look out for the Gedrosians, the Cretans and the kingdom of Kallatis!

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