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    Default Jack Thompson Faces Disbarment

    Apparently, the so called videogame crusader is finally being stopped in his fanatical attempt to basically strip mainstream videogames of violence/language/sex.

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    For over a decade, Florida attorney Jack Thompson has been one of the most public--and vociferous--critics of video games. After helping spark a regulatory crackdown on radio shock jock Howard Stern and Miami rap group 2 Live Crew, he turned his sights on violent titles he termed "murder simulators." One of his first targets was the id shooter Doom, which he said was to blame for the 1999 Columbine massacre.

    Anti-game activist Jack Thompson.

    Thompson is most famous for his acrid criticism of Rockstar Games' Grand Theft Auto series. He represented the families of several police officers shot by a teen who professed to be an avid player of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. His most vociferous attacks came after the uncovering of sex minigames hidden in the code of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, which was eventually recalled from retail.

    Besides his tit-for-tat lawsuits with Take-Two--which were finally settled in April 2007--Jack Thompson has engaged in numerous other legal maneuvers against the game industry. In federal court, he unsuccessfully attempted to have another Take-Two game, Bully, labeled a public nuisance. He also coauthored a Louisiana bill banning the sale of obscene games to minors--a bill that was briefly made law before being struck down.

    Now, though, it appears Thompson's crusade against games may be coming to an end--in the legal arena, anyway. A Kotaku correspondent on the scene reports that today, the Florida Bar requested in court that Thompson be given an "enhanced disbarment." According to 11th Judicial Circuit of Florida spokesperson Eunice Sigler, the measure--if imposed--would prohibit Thompson from practicing law in the state of Florida for the next 10 years.

    Though Thompson and the Florida Bar have clashed before, today's disbarment recommendation follows last month's hearing in which Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Dava Tunis concluded Thompson was guilty of 27 rule violations, including: Improperly practicing law in Alabama, making false statements to tribunals, and disparaging and humiliating litigants and other lawyers, according to a report on Law.com. At that time, Thompson tried to have Tunis removed from the case, claiming Tunis forged a signature on a 2000 loyalty oath and harbors a personal grudge against him.

    According to both Kotaku and the blog GamePolitics, Thompson responded to today's flourish with even a greater amount of ardor. After declaring the judge had no authority over him, the agitated attorney stormed out of the courtroom, according to witnesses. Before leaving, he filed a 14-page, 4,500-word objection with the court, in which he blasted the proceedings as a "non-hearing sanctions 'hearing'" and--in a rare move--referred to himself in the first person.

    In his objection, Thompson accused Judge Tunis and the Florida Supreme Court of being complicit in a Watergate-esque cover-up of forged loyalty oaths, citing a new oath signed in February as proof. Delcared Thompson: "The consequence of all of this post facto oath-taking is that all that the Florida Supreme Court has done in this case is invalid and will be voided, and if you think I will not accomplish that end then a) you do not understand the lawsuit already filed, and b) you don't know Jack."

    Thompson's objection also dismissed the enhanced disbarment ruling as invalid since it did not specifically spell out his offenses. "I have said it before, and I will say it again to you, and of course you will not listen, but the record must be made clear: You can't charge a lawyer and you can't charge a rapist with anything unless you tell him in the charging document with specificity--with facts alleged--what he has done."

    In what may be one of his last acts for some time as a Florida lawyer, Thompson went on to accuse two law firms and former Florida governor Jeb Bush as being the hidden hands behind the court's move to disbar him. He named the firms Blank Rome, which represents Take-Two Interactive, and Tew Cardenas, former employer of one of Thompson's clients.

    "I am to be punished for trying to save lives, over the objection of Blank Rome, which gives more money to the Bush family than any other law firm in the world," said Thompson, addressing the Judge Tunis and the Florida Supreme Court directly. "This is the Bush family that put you on this bench and whom you have protected by refusing to give me a subpoena that puts Jeb Bush under oath about his personal, financial relationship with the two law firms that are behind all of these Bar complaints, Tew Cardenas and Blank Rome. You are Jeb Bush's protector and shield from Jack Thompson, and you have discharged your sordid task in that regard effectively."

    Finally, after comparing Judge Tunis and the Florida Supreme Court to earthworms, deeming the proceedings a "Star Chamber kangaroo court," and invoking the horrors of the Nazi Third Reich, Thompson compared his plight at the disbarment hearings to the infamous 1991 confirmation of US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

    "Clarence Thomas, at his Senate confirmation hearings, spoke of those proceedings as 'a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the US Senate rather than hung from a tree.'"

    "The US Senate, Referee Tunis, has nothing on you and your high-tech lynching of the uppity Christian who stands before you."


    I tried to find this news on a "normal" news website, but it seemed like only the gaming websites are currently reporting on it right now.

    Personally, I feel that he finally got what he deserved. I have no problem with people trying to stop some of the games that are going over the line and just asking for troube from being accessible to very young kids, but I find his linking of videogame violence with murders or murder plots absolutely ludicrous.

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    An interesting little blurb from wikipedia

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    In October 2006, Thompson sent a letter to Midway Games, demanding they cease and desist selling the latest game in the Mortal Kombat series, Mortal Kombat: Armageddon, claiming that the game was illegally profiting on his likeness, because gamers could use the Kreate a Fighter option to make a character who looked like Jack Thompson.[81] Midway has not ceased distribution of the game.


    So...I can now sue anyone for creating anything that may be used to create an image that looks similar to me?
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    Default Re: Jack Thompson Faces Disbarment

    I think the fellow is misguided, but I can't see any reason why his right to protest about something he feels strongly about should be curtailed in that way.

    He appears to have lost most of his arguments - why does he have to be punished further?

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    I didn't quite get it even at the time. Jack Thompson's an idiot. His arguments made no sense. It was clear he couldn't achieve anything of note - but for some reason, gamers continued to kick up a huge fuss about this non-entity. Who cares? Nobody else seemed to, anyway.
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    It's hard not to take some kind of pleasure from something like this, though i can't say i understand what he has done ? and shouldn't the charges be mentioned in the document like he requested ?

    Edit ardent moralisers don't need arguments that make sense per say, just that convince people. Im thinking of that british woman who had the whole crusade against 'smut' on tv (mary whitehouse ?)
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    Doesn´t surprise me....last I checked they don´t allow the mentally insane to practice law...

    an anyway his downfall had been foretold:

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    now go and crawl back under whatever sad crazy rock you crawled out of.
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    Default Re: Jack Thompson Faces Disbarment

    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    He appears to have lost most of his arguments - why does he have to be punished further?
    He's being disbarred for numerous ethical violations. It has nothing to do with his stance on video games. It has everything to do with his failure to abide by the rules all attorneys have to abide by. It's very well deserved and it's been a long time in coming. If you practice law in a filthy, underhanded way, don't go complaining when you get disbarred.


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    It's only a matter of time before Jack (@$$) Thompson realizes that his pathetic little crusade (maybe jihad is a better word, in light of recent events) is destined to fail. Just like Tipper Gore, the best he can ever hope for is a warning label, which is already in place. It's not the fault of <insert random game company name> that parents don't pay attention to it.

    Parenting isn't the game industry's job.


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    I mass-murder thousands of people across Medieval and Roman-era battlefields every day. Sometimes when fighting the Mongols I have killed over 100,000 people in a single day. Not to mention mass extermination of civilians, including a population of nearly 60,000 in Constantinople. Throughout my TW career I suppose I have massacred millions of people.

    But I literally wouldn't harm a fly in real life. Games such as GTA stop the nutcases from going out and playing their games in RL even sooner than they otherwise would.
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    Default Re: Jack Thompson Faces Disbarment

    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    He's being disbarred for numerous ethical violations. It has nothing to do with his stance on video games. It has everything to do with his failure to abide by the rules all attorneys have to abide by. It's very well deserved and it's been a long time in coming. If you practice law in a filthy, underhanded way, don't go complaining when you get disbarred.
    Agreed. Thompson's method of "practicing" law has long been questionable at best. It was only a matter of time before this happened.


    That said, however.... I have to admit that part of me is sad he's being disbarred, if only because his actions have done so much to help discredit the rest of the anti-game loonies out there. (Also, his antics were so darn entertaining; they made for some pretty hilarious reading material. ) So long as he was the primary face & voice of the various anti-gaming groups, he made them all look look bad, just by association.

    When talking about Jack, the old phrase "Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't" definitely comes to mind.
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