Should Holocaust deniars be jailed?

[GoreBag]

Deniaaaaaaar!!

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Deniaaaaaaar!!

[KrooK]

Difference beetwen Poland and Israel
Poles who were killing Jewish civilians are criminals here (however I have big respect for Poles who were killing jewish and non jewish members of NKWD). Jews who were killing Poles and German civilians are heroes of Israel.

Its truth that Morel killed mostly German civilians or people accused of supporting Germans. However he killed civilians and should be sentenced for that. He has not been due to help given by jewish state.

Who killed Morels brother - polish communists. Why? Because Morel and his brother organised band of criminals who robbed Polish civilians and polish communits catched that band (during WW2 all polish resistance was not only fighting with Germans, but with criminals too). Why Morel has not been killed - he put blame on his brother.
Of course into enlish Wikipedia (this edited by english language Jews) its being written that Morel has been into Auschwitz. However no one saw him there and dozens of people saw him not into Auschwitz.

All in all I think I ought to change my mind. Holocaust denials should be jailed only if Jews stop denying their crimes.

[Tribesman]

Well if anyone had any doubts that krook is a raving anti semite I am sure they are now thoroughly dispelled .
Though of course it does raise the question , are Nazis just stupid or is it a form of mental illness that they cannot help , or perhaps a combination of the two .
BTW just to point out more crap Krooks claim about the worldwide jewish conspiracy editing wikipedia is slightly undermined by most editing of the article being done by Indians and Poles .
Then again given the nature of the tripe he wrote that doesn't really need pointing out ...bloody Nazis aren't they strange .

[Louis VI the Fat]

Well if anyone had any doubts that krook is a raving anti semite I am sure they are now thoroughly dispelled .
Though of course it does raise the question , are Nazis just stupid or is it a form of mental illness that they cannot help , or perhaps a combination of the two .
BTW just to point out more crap Krooks claim about the worldwide jewish conspiracy editing wikipedia is slightly undermined by most editing of the article being done by Indians and Poles .
Then again given the nature of the tripe he wrote that doesn't really need pointing out ...bloody Nazis aren't they strange .

Why you who is trying to put mental illness on nazis when irish are war criminels against inglish? before you trying to put into pole what is irish you should take big pole out of your own behind?
And no such thing as bloody nasiz they are all crispy clean becuase they waipe blood of clothes always

[Geoffrey S]

Why you who is trying to put mental illness on nazis when irish are war criminels against inglish? before you trying to put into pole what is irish you should take big pole out of your own behind?
And no such thing as bloody nasiz they are all crispy clean becuase they waipe blood of clothes always

Fixed for you.

[Tribesman]

Louis that is really good
Cruel but good , though of course it does raise the question , does it constitute cruelty to dumb animals ?

[Banquo's Ghost]

OK chaps, jokes are one thing but personal attacks quite another.

Please lay off the latter.

[Tribesman]

Please lay off the latte

Too much caffiene BG ?

[Tribesman]

Perhaps some keks with your coffee
http://www.recipelink.com/mf/21/84
There is always a place for fruitcakes , an airtight tin is a good place to keep them .

[Adrian II]

That's right, folks. Get the thread locked, give Krook an excuse to feel a martyr.

[Andres]

The Guild expects its patrons to remain civil even in the face of disagreements. Any kind of "flaming", slurs or insults adressed to an individual or a group is extremely inappropriate. Please respect etiquette at all times.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Three pages of people dismissing historical revisionism in the harshest of terms. Agreeing that public ridicule is a good counter-measure. Yet, when revisionism presents itself in fact, not in theory, and is duly satirised, people panic?

The .org is not for flame wars, nor should I take baits. But I've also been taught not to remain silent in the face of revisionism. It could be argued that the odd harsh satire and ridicule of revisionism might, in fact, be a proper reaction.

[Adrian II]

Three pages of people dismissing historical revisionism in the harshest of terms. Agreeing that public ridicule is a good counter-measure. Yet, when revisionism presents itself in fact, not in theory, and is duly satirised, people panic?

The .org is not for flame wars, nor should I take baits. But I've also been taught not to remain silent in the face of revisionism. It could be argued that the odd harsh satire and ridicule of revisionism might, in fact, be a proper reaction.

One can ridicule his views, not his person.

OK, so since when am I a moderator?

I know I'm not. I am just a member stating my view.

[Louis VI the Fat]

One can ridicule his views, not his person.

Oui papa.

Some evil supernatural force stole my ability to write coherent English some time ago. It's just gone, my pen has abandoned me, my mind restracted itself in a monolinguistic state. And satire needs to be a chrystal clear, razorsharp precision instrument. It is not to be wielded as a blunt sword by the incompetent.

I'll go and rewatch my Blackadder DVD's before another attempt at biting satire.

[Tribesman]

Some evil supernatural force stole my ability to write coherent English some time ago.

That was the Jews, they always do things like that , you are lucky they just stole it they could well have murdered you , in fact they would have murdered you if you was Polish .

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Three pages of people dismissing historical revisionism in the harshest of terms. Agreeing that public ridicule is a good counter-measure. Yet, when revisionism presents itself in fact, not in theory, and is duly satirised, people panic?

I would disagree with the common negative connotation of historical revisionism. The definition of historical revisionism is the critical reexamination of historical facts. There's nothing wrong with revisionism, as long as it is done in an educated manner by educated historians, as I have stated before.

[Whacker]

It should never be illegal to hold an opinion, however misguided that opinion may be.

Goofwad sums it up quite nicely with this post.

[Banquo's Ghost]

One can ridicule his views, not his person.

Indeed. Satire, as Louis so wisely states, should be a rapier not a cosh.

OK, so since when am I a moderator?

I know I'm not. I am just a member stating my view.

The quite extraordinary thing about this forum - and especially the Backroom - is that most members are moderators - in behaviour and expectation. That is, the level of personal responsibility and politeness alongside a gentle respect for others is astonishingly high and mostly requires naught more from those of us cursed with the tea towel than an occasional tap on the tiller.

I guess this is an appropriate place to state how grateful I am for that consideration and thus how pleasant it makes this job.

Too much caffiene BG?

Probably.

Now, back to topic you varmints!

[Tribesman]

Now, back to topic you varmints!

So now , since there is general agreement that idiots should not be jailed for their views it does raise the question , how do you put an idiot in the pillory without making it personal ?

[KrooK]

Ohh please guys
you are so strong attacking me
please explain what is wrong with materials i wrote?
or give any proof of your statements

[Tribesman]

There is nothing wrong with what you wrote Krook , it is just that what appeared in your posts was nonsense of a rather vile nature, I of course understand that the nonsense was not written by you but was the result of the Jews hacking the system as part of their subhuman global conspiracy to make you look like an anti-semetic fool .
I would suggest a decent anti virus program and a thorough scan of your computer to ensure that in future the Jews cannot alter your words to make you look stupid .

[Fragony]

Maybe Krook should say pre-Israeli instead of jew, it's that slit-second that makes that first impression. Jew -> awwwww Israeili -> grrrrrrr why not use it. But you can all laugh what you want but he doesn't say anything that isn't true.

[Tribesman]

So Frag you believe in a Jewish conspiracy that alters information on the internet ?

[PanzerJaeger]

OK chaps, jokes are one thing but personal attacks quite another.

Except in PMs, right old boy?

Ohh please guys
you are so strong attacking me
please explain what is wrong with materials i wrote?
or give any proof of your statements

The vast Jewish conspiracy has much broader plans than changing wikipedia. They want... POLAND!

Seriously though, are you're views common in Poland? Lessons apparently have not been learned.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Except in PMs, right old boy?

Private messages are just that, private. If you want to complain in public, there's the Watchtower and I'll be quite happy to defend my actions publicly.

So now , since there is general agreement that idiots should not be jailed for their views it does raise the question , how do you put an idiot in the pillory without making it personal ?

Usually by doing what you do so well most of the time: demonstrating that their views are utterly wrong and baseless. Personal vilification merely cedes the high ground - exposure is so much more compelling.

[Tribesman]

Banquo , I would have to go a lot further than I have to cede any ground whatsoever to someone who is clearly a nationalist anti-semite .
Though I must apologise if some of my previous posts seem to have infringed forum rules , but I insist that it wasn't me it was the elders of Zion following their protocols who edited my words to make them look personaly insulting to Krook and his "ideas" .

[PanzerJaeger]

Private messages are just that, private. If you want to complain in public, there's the Watchtower and I'll be quite happy to defend my actions publicly.

No way. Hypocrisy is slightly entertaining, but nothing to complain about...

Have a good day.

[KrooK]

When someone is starting personal attacks on his opponent, he has no arguments into discussion.
Thank you for personal attacks.

[Geoffrey S]

Like the post about Morel, perhaps?