Should Holocaust deniars be jailed?

**Louis VI the Fat** · 06-20-2008, 11:54

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well if anyone had any doubts that krook is a raving anti semite I am sure they are now thoroughly dispelled .
Though of course it does raise the question , are Nazis just stupid or is it a form of mental illness that they cannot help , or perhaps a combination of the two .
BTW just to point out more crap Krooks claim about the worldwide jewish conspiracy editing wikipedia is slightly undermined by most editing of the article being done by Indians and Poles .
Then again given the nature of the tripe he wrote that doesn't really need pointing out ...bloody Nazis aren't they strange .

Why you who is trying to put mental illness on nazis when irish are war criminels against inglish? before you trying to put into pole what is irish you should take big pole out of your own behind?
And no such thing as bloody nasiz they are all crispy clean becuase they waipe blood of clothes always

**Geoffrey S** · 06-20-2008, 11:58

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Why you who is trying to put mental illness on nazis when irish are war criminels against inglish? before you trying to put into pole what is irish you should take big pole out of your own behind?
And no such thing as bloody nasiz they are all crispy clean becuase they waipe blood of clothes always

Fixed for you.

**Tribesman** · 06-20-2008, 12:32

Louis that is really good

Cruel but good , though of course it does raise the question , does it constitute cruelty to dumb animals ?

**Banquo's Ghost** · 06-20-2008, 12:38

OK chaps, jokes are one thing but personal attacks quite another.

Please lay off the latter.

**Tribesman** · 06-20-2008, 13:34

Please lay off the latte

Too much caffiene BG ?

**Tribesman** · 06-20-2008, 13:39

Perhaps some keks with your coffee
http://www.recipelink.com/mf/21/84
There is always a place for fruitcakes , an airtight tin is a good place to keep them .

**Adrian II** · 06-20-2008, 13:46

That's right, folks. Get the thread locked, give Krook an excuse to feel a martyr.

**PanzerJaeger** · 06-20-2008, 21:20

Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

OK chaps, jokes are one thing but personal attacks quite another.

Except in PMs, right old boy?

Ohh please guys
you are so strong attacking me
please explain what is wrong with materials i wrote?
or give any proof of your statements

The vast Jewish conspiracy has much broader plans than changing wikipedia. They want... POLAND!

Seriously though, are you're views common in Poland? Lessons apparently have not been learned.

**Louis VI the Fat** · 06-20-2008, 23:57

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

Seriously though, are you're views common in Poland?

I've been to Poland twice - had some great times. I visited Cracow, and we teamed up with some Polish students there whom we had contacted over the internets. They had organised a great lecture on Polish history for us, by their professor at their university. In the middle of the old town, right next to a statue of their most famous lecturer, Copernicus. It was bliss.

Indeed, they have another version of history. Very interesting. It was not they who were ignorant. It was us who received a much needed eye-opener. New, overlooked perspectives. History is different if you've just spend two centuries between Germany and Russia. When WWII was fought right at your doorstep, at a crossroads of German, Jewish and Polish culture, 10 kilometers from Auschwitz. Much of it showed the shortcomings of the history we were accustomed to. And some of it was a bit peculiar, yes. But no, there was no anti-Semitic revisionism in it.

Or so at least they told me later that night, for Louis spend most of the lecture struggling with hangovers from the hot Polish nights - great people, great beers, great prices.

Norman Davies is an English scholar who has written a great history of Europe from a more Central-European perspective. In fact, he has studied in Cracow. He must be the best English language source for a Polish perspective.

**Louis VI the Fat** · 06-20-2008, 23:58

Originally Posted by Krook

Ohh please guys
you are so strong attacking me
please explain what is wrong with materials i wrote?
or give any proof of your statements

For all I care everything you wrote is true. Ancient revisionist tactics. Dig up a story of a Jew who didn't go to Auschwitz, and present it as proof of 'Jewish Lies!'. Find a story about a Jewish murderer, and present it as evidence for 'complex war situations' that 'surely warrant' further investigations into the 'real events' of WWII. Harass and insult Jews or the state of Israel with it, and then cry that if they 'cover up' their crimes, then surely we, who openly admit our part in the crimes, can claim the moral high ground?

Even if everything you wrote is true, it is nowhere near as clever as it looks. What is wrong about it is to put Jewish and German (or Polish) crimes on an equal footing, to constantly emphasize crimes comitted by Jews, and in so doing revise WWII history into some sort of civil war between European Jewry and Germany. I, for one, do not share the opinion that 'World Jewry' needs to apologise to Poland or Germany for its 'war crimes' in 1939-1945. Nor that World Jewry is trying to cover up these crimes and is protecting its many war criminals from this period. To put it mildly.

**PanzerJaeger** · 06-21-2008, 04:15

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

I've been to Poland twice - had some great times. I visited Cracow, and we teamed up with some Polish students there whom we had contacted over the internets. They had organised a great lecture on Polish history for us, by their professor at their university. In the middle of the old town, right next to a statue of their most famous lecturer, Copernicus. It was bliss.

Indeed, they have another version of history. Very interesting. It was not they who were ignorant. It was us who received a much needed eye-opener. New, overlooked perspectives. History is different if you've just spend two centuries between Germany and Russia. When WWII was fought right at your doorstep, at a crossroads of German, Jewish and Polish culture, 10 kilometers from Auschwitz. Much of it showed the shortcomings of the history we were accustomed to. And some of it was a bit peculiar, yes. But no, there was no anti-Semitic revisionism in it.

Or so at least they told me later that night, for Louis spend most of the lecture struggling with hangovers from the hot Polish nights - great people, great beers, great prices.

Norman Davies is an English scholar who has written a great history of Europe from a more Central-European perspective. In fact, he has studied in Cracow. He must be the best English language source for a Polish perspective.

Interesting observations Louis. I'm sure perspectives are quite different in most Warsaw Pact nations. I know that East Germans were taught that they were not responsible for the Holocaust and other Nazi crimes.

Thanks

**Geoffrey S** · 06-21-2008, 07:53

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Norman Davies is an English scholar who has written a great history of Europe from a more Central-European perspective. In fact, he has studied in Cracow. He must be the best English language source for a Polish perspective.

Prof.dr. Nicolette Mout is also well worth looking into. Interesting views on the development of Central Europe.