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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Why you who is trying to put mental illness on nazis when irish are war criminels against inglish? before you trying to put into pole what is irish you should take big pole out of your own behind?
    And no such thing as bloody nasiz they are all crispy clean becuase they waipe blood of clothes always
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    Louis that is really good
    Cruel but good , though of course it does raise the question , does it constitute cruelty to dumb animals ?

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    OK chaps, jokes are one thing but personal attacks quite another.

    Please lay off the latter.
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    Please lay off the latte
    Too much caffiene BG ?

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    Perhaps some keks with your coffee
    http://www.recipelink.com/mf/21/84
    There is always a place for fruitcakes , an airtight tin is a good place to keep them .
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    That's right, folks. Get the thread locked, give Krook an excuse to feel a martyr.
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    The Guild expects its patrons to remain civil even in the face of disagreements. Any kind of "flaming", slurs or insults adressed to an individual or a group is extremely inappropriate. Please respect etiquette at all times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    OK chaps, jokes are one thing but personal attacks quite another.
    Except in PMs, right old boy?

    Ohh please guys
    you are so strong attacking me
    please explain what is wrong with materials i wrote?
    or give any proof of your statements
    The vast Jewish conspiracy has much broader plans than changing wikipedia. They want... POLAND!

    Seriously though, are you're views common in Poland? Lessons apparently have not been learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Seriously though, are you're views common in Poland?
    I've been to Poland twice - had some great times. I visited Cracow, and we teamed up with some Polish students there whom we had contacted over the internets. They had organised a great lecture on Polish history for us, by their professor at their university. In the middle of the old town, right next to a statue of their most famous lecturer, Copernicus. It was bliss.

    Indeed, they have another version of history. Very interesting. It was not they who were ignorant. It was us who received a much needed eye-opener. New, overlooked perspectives. History is different if you've just spend two centuries between Germany and Russia. When WWII was fought right at your doorstep, at a crossroads of German, Jewish and Polish culture, 10 kilometers from Auschwitz. Much of it showed the shortcomings of the history we were accustomed to. And some of it was a bit peculiar, yes. But no, there was no anti-Semitic revisionism in it.

    Or so at least they told me later that night, for Louis spend most of the lecture struggling with hangovers from the hot Polish nights - great people, great beers, great prices.

    Norman Davies is an English scholar who has written a great history of Europe from a more Central-European perspective. In fact, he has studied in Cracow. He must be the best English language source for a Polish perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krook
    Ohh please guys
    you are so strong attacking me
    please explain what is wrong with materials i wrote?
    or give any proof of your statements
    For all I care everything you wrote is true. Ancient revisionist tactics. Dig up a story of a Jew who didn't go to Auschwitz, and present it as proof of 'Jewish Lies!'. Find a story about a Jewish murderer, and present it as evidence for 'complex war situations' that 'surely warrant' further investigations into the 'real events' of WWII. Harass and insult Jews or the state of Israel with it, and then cry that if they 'cover up' their crimes, then surely we, who openly admit our part in the crimes, can claim the moral high ground?

    Even if everything you wrote is true, it is nowhere near as clever as it looks. What is wrong about it is to put Jewish and German (or Polish) crimes on an equal footing, to constantly emphasize crimes comitted by Jews, and in so doing revise WWII history into some sort of civil war between European Jewry and Germany. I, for one, do not share the opinion that 'World Jewry' needs to apologise to Poland or Germany for its 'war crimes' in 1939-1945. Nor that World Jewry is trying to cover up these crimes and is protecting its many war criminals from this period. To put it mildly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    I've been to Poland twice - had some great times. I visited Cracow, and we teamed up with some Polish students there whom we had contacted over the internets. They had organised a great lecture on Polish history for us, by their professor at their university. In the middle of the old town, right next to a statue of their most famous lecturer, Copernicus. It was bliss.

    Indeed, they have another version of history. Very interesting. It was not they who were ignorant. It was us who received a much needed eye-opener. New, overlooked perspectives. History is different if you've just spend two centuries between Germany and Russia. When WWII was fought right at your doorstep, at a crossroads of German, Jewish and Polish culture, 10 kilometers from Auschwitz. Much of it showed the shortcomings of the history we were accustomed to. And some of it was a bit peculiar, yes. But no, there was no anti-Semitic revisionism in it.

    Or so at least they told me later that night, for Louis spend most of the lecture struggling with hangovers from the hot Polish nights - great people, great beers, great prices.

    Norman Davies is an English scholar who has written a great history of Europe from a more Central-European perspective. In fact, he has studied in Cracow. He must be the best English language source for a Polish perspective.
    Interesting observations Louis. I'm sure perspectives are quite different in most Warsaw Pact nations. I know that East Germans were taught that they were not responsible for the Holocaust and other Nazi crimes.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Norman Davies is an English scholar who has written a great history of Europe from a more Central-European perspective. In fact, he has studied in Cracow. He must be the best English language source for a Polish perspective.
    Prof.dr. Nicolette Mout is also well worth looking into. Interesting views on the development of Central Europe.
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    The Israeli letter rejecting extradition states that Morel joined the partisans of the Red Army in 1942, and was in the forests when his parents, sister-in-law, and brother were killed by Polish Blue Police officers; the next year, his brother was killed by a Polish fascist
    1. Morel has not been Pole - he was Jew.
    2. Communists (polish, jewish or russian) were massive killing Poles after ww2. However Jews were elite of NKWD. They were doing their job with passion - especially when killing members of Country Army - polish resistance who protected both Poles and Jews during ww2.
    3. So tell me - who finally killed Morels family? Blue Police or Auschwitz creed? Because according to your previous post, whole his family has been killed into Auschwitz. I know They were killed twice!!!!
    4. Probably your source is Israeli reply on polish request of extradition.
    http://www1.ipn.gov.pl/download.php?s=1&id=1981
    I have never seen such a bunch of lies. This is my source when I'm talking that Jewish state is covering war criminals.
    Here is IPN material about Morel - temporary unaivalable into english however should be made soon.
    http://www.ipn.gov.pl/portal.php?ser...dzial=2&id=812


    Telling that Jews did not commit war crimes is biggest ww2 lie.


    And best accusation of Morel.
    That poor holocausted Jew forced polish prisoners to sing nazist songs and hurt them if they didn't know words. Yep - I think it was his dream to join arian race. Could someone tell me why people who love nazist songs are protected by Israel?
    Last edited by Banquo's Ghost; 06-21-2008 at 09:19. Reason: Removed personal attack
    John Thomas Gross - liar who want put on Poles responsibility for impassivity of American Jews during holocaust

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