Rome: Total Corruption

[Rhyfelwyr]

Having just returned to RTW from M2TW and Kingdoms, I cannot believe how easy it is to bribe enemy armies. I can do it with a rubbish Diplomat, and have never had a bribe rejected.

This is particularly useful in the Roman civil war since I get all the troops I bribe. One diplomat bribed two Scipii full-stacks in north Africa. Both armies were full of Early Legionary Cohorts and a few other troops, and they cost about 5,000 each! It seems to me this is cheaper than actually raising my own armies.

Plus neary all my Generals who fought the Gallic and Spanish wars were either bribed from those factions or from brigand armies.

I would say it is an exploit, but the AI uses this feature just as shamelessly. The Brutii bribed my capital at Arretium, wrecking my plans to raise an updated legion.

Anyone else find this feature makes things a little easy.

[Quirinus]

The Roman bribery thing has been fixed in v1.5, I think. Romans bribing Romans will need a ludicrous amount of cash in 1.5.

I don't know, but I've personally never found bribery to be so cheap-- a full-stack of a few 'good' troops with lots of levies typically costs me somewhere in the 40000d-50000d range to bribe. The budget for bribing generals typically run into the hundreds of thousands.... And maybe it's because I always play on M/M, so I've never seen AI diplomats bribing anything other than other diplomats before.

[Rhyfelwyr]

I'm playing unpatched (because of Vista), on VH/M. A General himself or with a mini-brigand army will usually be around 2,000 Denarii. Its actually more sensible to train a diplomat and bribe an army than actually get your own.

[I of the Storm]

Oh yes, those were the (1.0-)days...

No need to actually raise your own armies for the civil war - you simply bought the other roman armies for a discount price.

[Quintus.JC]

In version 1.5 you can't bribe other Romans until the civil war... Other wise it's still very cheap, especially with a experienced diplomat.

[Rhyfelwyr]

In version 1.5 you can't bribe other Romans until the civil war... Other wise it's still very cheap, especially with a experienced diplomat.

I can bribe them without consequence before then?!