Originally Posted by :
So non-drinkers, (or indeed, anyone without any vices) are quite boring are they?
Yes, people with
no vices are usually tediously self-righteous and very boring in my experience. Having no character flaws at all is usually a recipe for a person being utterly un-likeable in my book.
Why would there be a need to have weed users declare it to potential employers? If it makes them lazy or unprofessional, that should be reason enough not to employ them without delving into their personal habits. If not, it's none of your business.
Originally Posted by Poor Bloody Infantry:
Yes, people with no vices are usually tediously self-righteous and very boring in my experience. Having no character flaws at all is usually a recipe for a person being utterly un-likeable in my book.
So any vice is OK (gluttony for the win!), or does it have to be chemically induced?
Originally Posted by :
Why would there be a need to have weed users declare it to potential employers? If it makes them lazy or unprofessional, that should be reason enough not to employ them without delving into their personal habits.
That's what I was thinking originally...if they're lazy, just fire them/don't hire them.
The nature of the vice doesn't particularly matter, only the degree. Obviously giving in to vice entirely isn't a good idea, but on the other hand I do rather feel that to completely avoid all vice essentially means avoiding all fun. And people who don't like fun, don't tend to be much fun to be around.
Originally Posted by Poor Bloody Infantry:
Yes, people with no vices are usually tediously self-righteous and very boring in my experience. Having no character flaws at all is usually a recipe for a person being utterly un-likeable in my book.
Erm, you're really going out on a limb there. You're assuming that there is something such as an ideal person, whatever he/she must be like. The word that you're really looking for, is personality.
Reverend Joe 13:08 06-20-2008
Look, if you're gonna argue that it should be illegal because it's a vice, then just make liquor and tobacco illegal as well.
The Russian Mafia will love you to death.
The vice argument is a complete non-issue because the precedent set by alcohol states that the government and society are willing to tolerate vices as long as the person does not interfere with the lives of others (drunk fighting, driving, etc.) Besides which, if a person becomes a horrific waste of life because they are a daily smoker, it's their fault, not the drug's fault; it was some flaw in their personality that caused them to become such. As a counterexample, I used to smoke 2-3 times a day over the past semester, and my GPA was 3.0 (out of 4.0) and I am currently attending summer classes, which are basically the hardest thing you can do in college. As for the people I know who smoke, I have only known one true "pothead" in my life, and the dude was a waste of life, grass or no grass. You can just tell when you meet them.
@Spartan: it's less of a menace to society than alcohol. Far less. In fact, I would venture to say that it isn't a menace at all; that the only menace to society is people.
CountArach 13:30 06-20-2008
Originally Posted by Reverend Joe:
@Sparten: it's less of a menace to society than alcohol. Far less. In fact, I would venture to say that it isn't a menace at all; that the only menace to society is people.
I wasn't going to say it, but I concur (for the most part)
Spartan198 04:07 06-27-2008
Originally Posted by Reverend Joe:
Look, if you're gonna argue that it should be illegal because it's a vice, then just make liquor and tobacco illegal as well.
Fantastic idea.
CountArach 08:24 06-28-2008
Originally Posted by
Spartan198:
Fantastic idea. 
Yes, because its never failed miserably in the past...
Originally Posted by Viking:
Erm, you're really going out on a limb there. You're assuming that there is something such as an ideal person, whatever he/she must be like. The word that you're really looking for, is personality.
Yeah, I suppose so.
Sorry for the rather abrasive language in my previous post. I was essentially trying to make the point that abstaining from all vice entirely isn't really very endearing. I guess I learned my lesson about posting hastily while in a bad mood, will try not to do it again.
CountArach 13:00 06-20-2008
Originally Posted by Poor Bloody Infantry:
Yes, people with no vices are usually tediously self-righteous and very boring in my experience. Having no character flaws at all is usually a recipe for a person being utterly un-likeable in my book.
Getting a bit esoteric here (Always wanted to use that word...) but isn't being a perfectionist a character flaw in itself?
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