Re: Classical Hoplites
Question on the Classical Hoplites, since they'll be the mainstay of my line in my new game, why don't they have swords as their secondary? Says they should on their description.
The Massilian hoplites have backup swords, and do most phalangites, so why not them?
Would it be a complicated business to give them swords? I'm presuming they need a skin with them holding a sword or something to do that?
Last edited by QuintusSertorius; 06-17-2008 at 23:09.
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Re: Classical Hoplites
It was something with their swords being bugged, or they being used as assault infantry, or something, something. Someone else will explain better.
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Re: Classical Hoplites
I think I vaguely remember something like that. I hope someone has the more detailed explanation, because it seems a real shame to reduce their versatility like that.
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Re: Classical Hoplites
units that use the overhand spear animation cannot properly use a secondary weapon. They'll do things like charge with the sword then switch to the spear...
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Re: Classical Hoplites
Bugger. Oh well, can't be helped.
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Philetairos' Gift - a second EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR
Re: Classical Hoplites
I believe that when the hoplites have the sword as their secondary weapon, they get spread out too much.
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AW: Classical Hoplites
Units with two melee weapons always use their secondary weapon to charge. The Ai is not able to handle these correctly. The only units that make correct use of primary and secondary weapon are the phalangites.
A related issue seem to be units with prec missles always start an attack with this weapon, even when they are already in contact with the enemy (any enemy). So you see the AI spearmen on "reloading" while the front rows are already been cut down by your swordsmen. The same happens when the spearmen are already fighting with one of your units and you send a second one into the melee: the AI changes back to "reloading". Even more: when facing two or more enemy units at the same time the "reloading" seems to be endless, lasting until the unit is routed.
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