What if...

**Fish-got-a-Sniper** · 06-21-2008, 20:16

I saw a thread about this a couple weeks ago and it intrigued me. So I am recreating this thread where people can ask their hypothetical questions and in turn, get hypothetical answers. I was wondering if the Seleucids could have won the Battle of Magnesia and if so, what would the outcome have been on both sides (especially the Seleucids as this sorta sealed their fate).

**Swordmaster** · 06-21-2008, 20:26

What if Alexander had had a clone?

**Long lost Caesar** · 06-21-2008, 21:29

I've gotta admit I don't know much about the Seleukids and even less about Magnesia (Hannibal was involved?) but as for the second post...the world ain't big enough for TWO Alexander's. Hell there's hardly enough room for me and I'm not even a Macedonian general! The name's enough

**Jolt** · 06-22-2008, 14:33

Originally Posted by Swordmaster

What if Alexander had had a clone?

Who do you think invented the technology for FM clones in EB?

Anyways, if the Seleucids had won the battle, the immediate outcome (which is pretty certain) would be massive rebellions in Greece. Now whether Antioch could sieze the moment, step in and annex Greece, or the rebellions would succeed and create the Greek City-States we all know about or if the rebellion failed, it is already beyond our knowledge to know.

**Zarax** · 06-22-2008, 15:08

Originally Posted by Fish-got-a-Sniper

I saw a thread about this a couple weeks ago and it intrigued me. So I am recreating this thread where people can ask their hypothetical questions and in turn, get hypothetical answers. I was wondering if the Seleucids could have won the Battle of Magnesia and if so, what would the outcome have been on both sides (especially the Seleucids as this sorta sealed their fate).

Rome would have kept sending armies until the seleucids surrendered, which wouldn't have taken long given the relative instability of the successors...

The great what if about magnesia is about how it would have been fought if Hannibal and Scipio were in command...

**tls5669** · 06-22-2008, 22:24

What if Alexander had went West instead of East?

**Tellos Athenaios** · 06-22-2008, 22:33

Then he would have had a small but significant problem in finding enough targets which could pay for his army.

**Fish-got-a-Sniper** · 06-23-2008, 00:13

The only possible targets he may have had were the Greek colonies and Carthage, and maybe the mineral deposits in Britain and Spain.

**Tyrfingr** · 06-23-2008, 00:18

What if Hannibal had managed to take Rome?

**Reverend Joe** · 06-23-2008, 00:38

That's a bit more complex than you may think. Now, if he had had the support of the King of Makedon in more than name, and if the Carthaginan Senate still supported him, he might have had a real shot at breaking Rome just after Cannae.

Oh, yeah, and he would have needed siege engines as well.

But, if he had all that... yeah, he might have beaten Rome.

**Jolt** · 06-23-2008, 01:42

...What if Bartix (Who is really an island in the Persian Gulf) invaded the Seleucids from the one place they weren't expecting and expanded to the four corners of the EB map? (They'd be defeated in India thanks to the Maurya's 300 elephants)

**Olaf The Great** · 06-24-2008, 05:32

Originally Posted by Jolt

...What if Bartix (Who is really an island in the Persian Gulf) invaded the Seleucids from the one place they weren't expecting and expanded to the four corners of the EB map? (They'd be defeated in India thanks to the Maurya's 300 elephants)

No, Bartix is the island in the far southeast of the map, ie E.B.

Their atlantis USED to be northwest of Britain..but that seems to be gone now :(