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    Ultimately we should be thinking if we should even make contact with them on account of their isolation having isolated them from the major diseases of the world - they could be quite happy to make friends with us and enjoy the modern world, but by doing so they could quite easily all be wiped out by the common cold.
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    Lets send them some blankets.
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    I'm distinctly in favor of letting them "find" the rest of us, not the other way around. One thing that never ceases to annoy the crap out of me is when these christian missionaries make it a point to find these people and essentially destroy their culture and way of life, and at the same time bringing them some wonderful gifts in the way of diseases that end up killing quite a few of them. Leave em be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    I'm distinctly in favor of letting them "find" the rest of us, not the other way around. One thing that never ceases to annoy the crap out of me is when these christian missionaries make it a point to find these people and essentially destroy their culture and way of life, and at the same time bringing them some wonderful gifts in the way of diseases that end up killing quite a few of them. Leave em be.
    Boy you've become cynical havent you? You're ageing well Whacker

    To answer the question, as long as they arent threatened lets leave them be shall we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    To answer the question, as long as they arent threatened lets leave them be shall we?
    But according to the article, they are threatened, by poverty. Life expectancy of 35-40, high percentages of mothers dying under birth, high percentage of infant deaths, etc etc...

    They are human beings, after all. If we can significantly improve their lives by simple things like matches, metal tools, basic medicine, etc, how can we not do that?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    But according to the article, they are threatened, by poverty. Life expectancy of 35-40, high percentages of mothers dying under birth, high percentage of infant deaths, etc etc...
    this is subjective Hore Tore maybe by their standards they are living in the lap of luxury.

    They are human beings, after all. If we can significantly improve their lives by simple things like matches, metal tools, basic medicine, etc, how can we not do that?
    Improve by who's standards? If they ask us to come in I am all for it, but the imposition of improvements to others lives has a couple of failed examples through history dont you think commrade Lenin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    this is subjective Hore Tore maybe by their standards they are living in the lap of luxury.

    Improve by who's standards? If they ask us to come in I am all for it, but the imposition of improvements to others lives has a couple of failed examples through history dont you think commrade Lenin?
    Of course, I'm trying to generate some sort of debate here

    But as the guy in the article says:

    The Australian government followed a sensible, enlightened policy that allowed the indigenous people to develop at their own pace. They stopped encroachment by missionaries and miners, set up regular trading posts in the interior, and simply waited for the native people to approach. Contrary to the view of groups like Survival, native peoples are not stupid. They have always heard a great deal about the white men from contact with other tribes. They know that ‘white man’s medicine’ offers better treatment for many conditions than the tribal shaman. They know the value of metal tools and matches – simple implements that can mean the difference between starvation and survival. They know their lives are hard and not as full of ‘social and leisure activities’ as Survival’s ‘experts’ believe.

    They would prefer not to have to lose their wives during childbirth, that half their children would not die within the first two years of their lives, and for outsiders to stop the brutal retaliatory wars between tribes that often start as an accident but must then escalate as ‘payback’. They quickly understand the value of disease-prevention (by vaccination or malaria eradication).
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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