What to do about "undiscovered" natives?

[Mikeus Caesar]

Dude. Leave them the hell alone. God knows I would rather have lives 35-40 years as an innocent villager than live in this psychotic world.



...What the hell's that? Firebomb them and convert the suriviors to Christianity?

Go watch some Star Trek. Then you'll get the reference.

The fact you're on this, a forum full of geeks, and don't get Star Trek references is, quite frankly, shocking and disturbing.

[Reverend Joe]

Go watch some Star Trek.

I was afraid of that... I have vague memories of references to such a thing on other shows, generally in mocking reference to it.

And, frankly, I pride myself on not knowing what all that ridiculous crap means.

[Crazed Rabbit]

It seems to me the people behind the 'Survival International' Group are bigots of the highest order.

How many among us would really like to live such a life, where half (or more!) of those born die in childhood, where every day is a struggle, literally, to survive? So what must the 'Survival' group think of those people to insist they enjoy it and that such a life is best for them. I can hardly comprehend it.

If you saw your neighbor living in a hut like an ancient peasant, barely scraping by on sustenance farming, half of their children dead, would you pass them by, thinking they must enjoy it?

Something like what Australia did in PNG would seem best in this situation.

CR

[LittleGrizzly]

And, frankly, I pride myself on not knowing what all that ridiculous crap means.

I wouldn't even class myself as a trekkie, i think i became a fully fledged geek with my explanation of the prime directive... lets keep that to ourselves ;)

[discovery1]

Leave em be, helping out others only gets you in trouble. Besides, according to Cannibal Holocaust the jungle is where non-natives go to die unless they have a tape recorder.

[HoreTore]

It seems to me the people behind the 'Survival International' Group are bigots of the highest order.

How many among us would really like to live such a life, where half (or more!) of those born die in childhood, where every day is a struggle, literally, to survive? So what must the 'Survival' group think of those people to insist they enjoy it and that such a life is best for them. I can hardly comprehend it.

If you saw your neighbor living in a hut like an ancient peasant, barely scraping by on sustenance farming, half of their children dead, would you pass them by, thinking they must enjoy it?

Something like what Australia did in PNG would seem best in this situation.

CR

I bet they're having a snowball fight in hell, CR and I are in complete agreement

[Louis VI the Fat]

The incomparable David Attenborough made a documentary about meeting an undiscovered tribe. He went to New Guinea, along with some Aussie government eh, somethings, to establish contact. It was filmed way back in 1970. Great program. It's titled 'A Blank on the Map'. I got it on dvd, it should probably float around on some internets.

I've lost my ability to post coherent posts in English lately so i won't post any extensive comment on it.

a forum full of geeks

Geeks!? Here? Pah!

Watch me dance in this cool video and then tell me I'm a geek.

Tsk.

[discovery1]

Watch me dance in this cool video and then tell me I'm a geek.

Tsk.

Nice moves. More appropriate for the dojo then the dance floor though. I give it 1 out of 10 for dance, and 7 out of ten when judged by martial arts ability.

Anyone remember the name of the 'undiscovered' amazon tribe that was really a bunch of actors who had been paid off?

[InsaneApache]

My bet is that they're descendents of former members of the third reich. There got Godwin in.

[Divinus Arma]

I can't help but think someone else might be thinking along the same lines as I am:


What would we want if Aliens could magically appear and cure almost all of our diseases, double or triple our life spans, and introduce us to technologies beyond our wildest imaginations?

What if that meant introducing us to a universal civilization and strange foreign new existential perspectives, thus shattering our current world view as "superior beings in God's image": the invalidation of Jesus Christ, Mohammed, et al. ?


Would you scream in fear and fight change, or would you adapt and welcome our new leaders?

[Whacker]

Div, if it means having a risk between being "visited" by Klingons first or the Vulcans, I'd rather risk neither.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

I can't help but think someone else might be thinking along the same lines as I am:


What would we want if Aliens could magically appear and cure almost all of our diseases, double or triple our life spans, and introduce us to technologies beyond our wildest imaginations?

What if that meant introducing us to a universal civilization and strange foreign new existential perspectives, thus shattering our current world view as "superior beings in God's image": the invalidation of Jesus Christ, Mohammed, et al. ?


Would you scream in fear and fight change, or would you adapt and welcome our new leaders?

I would probably want things to go slowly at first. Let people get used to the change over time ya know? Drastic change over a short period is rarely good for a number of reasons and would probably end up in all sorts of social strife. Just look at colonization, revolutions and so on.

[Viking]

I can't help but think someone else might be thinking along the same lines as I am:


What would we want if Aliens could magically appear and cure almost all of our diseases, double or triple our life spans, and introduce us to technologies beyond our wildest imaginations?

What if that meant introducing us to a universal civilization and strange foreign new existential perspectives, thus shattering our current world view as "superior beings in God's image": the invalidation of Jesus Christ, Mohammed, et al. ?


Would you scream in fear and fight change, or would you adapt and welcome our new leaders?

I'd embrace the technology. And to put it this way; I'd much rather sit here than running around in Amazonas shooting poison arrows after silly small animals, and staring with awe and fear at helicopters.

[CountArach]

I'd embrace the technology. And to put it this way; I'd much rather sit here than running around in Amazonas shooting poison arrows after silly small animals, and staring with awe and fear at helicopters.

But what if you were born and raised in the Amazon? Would you feel the same way?

[Devastatin Dave]

Do you think the soil around there is strong enough to support a casino?

[Adrian II]

Do you think the soil around there is strong enough to support a casino?

ROFL!!!

Teh best answer. Takes care of the do-gooders and leave-em-aloners at the same time. Ouch.

Well said, my friend, well said.

[Husar]

If an undiscovered native falls in a forest, does she/ he make a sound?

[Rhyfelwyr]

What must have been going through their minds when they saw that plane?

I say we show them Lord of the Rings or something like that and tell them that this is our history. Or maybe a horror film like 'The Ring'. So then we can make up a religion for them to follow. That would all make a funny programme.

I remember that a very old film was made in which dead soldiers were supposed to be rising from the battlefields of WWI. When it was shown to some well-off people (British or maybe American I think), they were absolutely horrified and started fainting and all the rest.

If we showed these tribes a modern day film with all the latest effects, it would be amazing to see how they react.

[Mikeus Caesar]

What must have been going through their minds when they saw that plane?

I say we show them Lord of the Rings or something like that and tell them that this is our history. Or maybe a horror film like 'The Ring'. So then we can make up a religion for them to follow. That would all make a funny programme.

I remember that a very old film was made in which dead soldiers were supposed to be rising from the battlefields of WWI. When it was shown to some well-off people (British or maybe American I think), they were absolutely horrified and started fainting and all the rest.

If we showed these tribes a modern day film with all the latest effects, it would be amazing to see how they react.

Somehow i think they'd be more amazed at the simple things we take for granted, such as wheels.

[Odin]

And the first crack appears

[Flying Pig]

If they live in your country and don't adknowledge your soverignity then surley that's as bad as civil war? DISCLAIMER: Just a point to be debated, not to really be taken as a serious view and/or extradite me upon