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    Hi! I suppose, that in the epoc of the mod, will be berbers, righ?
    I can help developing, this culture whit info about them, leaders names...
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    Numidians appear in EBI, though not as a faction. While EBII will allow for extra factions, it is not known at this time whether Numidia (in some form) will be included as a playable faction. The EB team releases info on new factions as previews, but only Pergamon has so far been previewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acoran View Post
    Hi! I suppose, that in the epoc of the mod, will be berbers, righ?
    I can help developing, this culture whit info about them, leaders names...
    Im berber
    Acoran, ¿esos nombres que son, guanches? (ashenshen, tkanaren, etc...)
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    So, a question to you Acoran. What exactly where the Berbers up to in 272 BC? You know, any info on them would be great, I know little before of them before maybe... 100 AD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Appo View Post
    So, a question to you Acoran. What exactly where the Berbers up to in 272 BC? You know, any info on them would be great, I know little before of them before maybe... 100 AD.
    I can help you about this, but the best works about imazghen (berbers) are in french language. But I know works about amazigh history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Appo View Post
    So, a question to you Acoran. What exactly where the Berbers up to in 272 BC? You know, any info on them would be great, I know little before of them before maybe... 100 AD.
    I forgot tell you.

    The periods BC, are the Horse period, and the camel period that ends near the first years AC.

    Horse Period starts near 1000 BC, until Roman empire starts and Camel is introducen in North Africa...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vonhaupold View Post
    Acoran, ¿esos nombres que son, guanches? (ashenshen, tkanaren, etc...)
    Are amazigh names... I explain you.

    The cronicles wrote about guanche (habitants of Tenerife, cause Tenerife, is the name that Benhuaritas (Habitants of La Palma) used to Tenerife) name of Tenerife was Achineche, by a filology study, the original form was Ashenshen, and "Shen" means, roar "rugido in spanish", then Ashenshen, is "a lot of roar" caused by volcanic activity.

    Guanche, come from Guan-shen, the son, the habitant, of "Shen" (where there are roars)

    Tkanaren, is the plural, female form of Kanari. Kanari were the tribe that come from Sous (South of Morocco) and come principally to Gran Canaria, and taht is cause, Gran Canaria, take the the actual name, cause his habitants, are the Kanarii. And the female is formed adding "T" and changing to plural, Is Tkanaren.

    Tamazgha, is a neology, used to refeer to North of Africa, against arab therm "Magreb"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acoran View Post
    Are amazigh names... I explain you.

    The cronicles wrote about guanche (habitants of Tenerife, cause Tenerife, is the name that Benhuaritas (Habitants of La Palma) used to Tenerife) name of Tenerife was Achineche, by a filology study, the original form was Ashenshen, and "Shen" means, roar "rugido in spanish", then Ashenshen, is "a lot of roar" caused by volcanic activity.

    Guanche, come from Guan-shen, the son, the habitant, of "Shen" (where there are roars)

    Tkanaren, is the plural, female form of Kanari. Kanari were the tribe that come from Sous (South of Morocco) and come principally to Gran Canaria, and taht is cause, Gran Canaria, take the the actual name, cause his habitants, are the Kanarii. And the female is formed adding "T" and changing to plural, Is Tkanaren.

    Tamazgha, is a neology, used to refeer to North of Africa, against arab therm "Magreb"
    Very interesting, there's a lot of mystery and myth attached to the Canary Islands. My uncle lives in Lanzarote, and I've been there numerous times. I had heard the Guanches likely came from western Africa. Is it true that they forgot how to build boats after arriving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vonhaupold View Post
    Very interesting, there's a lot of mystery and myth attached to the Canary Islands. My uncle lives in Lanzarote, and I've been there numerous times. I had heard the Guanches likely came from western Africa. Is it true that they forgot how to build boats after arriving?
    In deed, there arent so many mistery and myth, the ancient habitants of Canary Islands, come from differents parts of north africa, of actuall countries of western sahara, morocco, argelia and tunisia.

    Many islands, take his names, of majoritary population that arrived to them.

    For example, "La Palma", his ancient names is Benhuare - Ben-Huwwara, the tribe Huwwara is a tribe from the south of Morocco, actually arabized.

    Gomera islands, taken his name, from Ghomara, tribe of rif, north of morocco. Actually very arabized too.

    Gran Canaria, from his population, Kanarii, from the south of morocco too. Near atlas mountains.

    Bimbaches (habitants of el Hierro) the non spanish name is, Ben-Bachir, I dont know exactly where is located actually them.

    Guanches, are a lot of question where they are.

    you can see more info in www.mundoguanche.com

    The actual amazigh population groups are:

    Canary Islands (last amazigh speakers from XVIII century), Sus (South Morocco), Rif (North Morocco), Atlas (Atlas mountains, morocco), Kabylia (Zidane is from Kabylia , Argelia), Chaoui (Argelia, close to Tunisia), Mzab (an Oasis in Argelia), Tuareg (In Argelia, Niger, Maí and Chad), nefusa (Libia), Siwa oasis (Egypt), Zenaga (Mauritaine), and another minors groups in Argelia and Lybia.

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    "Ben" is not a guanche or berber word but an arabian one.
    So if your etymologies are correct, the names that include "ben" in Canarias have a more recent origin - the terminus post quem would be the muslim expansion in the Magreb (circa 700 A.D.).
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