Pan-Hellenic Games/Festival?

[Victor1234]

How does the Pan-Hellenic games/festival building work exactly? Apart from the happiness effects listed (and the implementation of the vanilla games option for towns), it doesn't seem to do much, while from the description one would think there was a system for it similar to the Olympics.

So, how do these two buildings work?

[General Appo]

It gives you happiness and bigger games/festivals. That´s it. What else you want them to do? In my KH campaign I had like 10 of those Panhellenic games, you want a trait for each one to show the winner?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Well, you can change how frequently you want the games or festivals to occur, but that's about the limit of interactivity we can manage once you actually build them. That, coupled with the two "paths" in the first place is pretty good though. We thought about some traits for those other big three panhellenic games, but the Olympic ones is really all we can handle without flooding the player with even more traits.

[Victor1234]

Well, you can change how frequently you want the games or festivals to occur, but that's about the limit of interactivity we can manage once you actually build them. That, coupled with the two "paths" in the first place is pretty good though. We thought about some traits for those other big three panhellenic games, but the Olympic ones is really all we can handle without flooding the player with even more traits.

I understand. I like the concept just the same, it just seemed like there'd be something extra, from the description.

You guys have done a fantastic job with the mod.

[Nachtmeister]

Hello, it has been ages since I had my last bit of holidays but right now I have one more day to go and been grinding my KH campaign all week, and after a search for my issue I hit this thread, so... I have finally returned here to do some friendly thread-gravedigging. :) This is the first time I actually got to the point of worrying whether to build local festivals or local games (in Qarthadast); after building the festivals I noticed that I can not simply build both... so... my point is, what is the *technical* difference (game mechanics) between the two? From the build tree, it just looks like you need more pre-requisites to build the festivals (gymnasion); the building effect description in the building scroll (ingame) was 5% happiness for both, while one lets you host festivals and the other lets you host games, both of which will give you a happiness boost in exchange for raised running cost if you do more than quadrennial events (which is gameplay-technically the same). Is there a difference between festivals and games that I have overlooked? Or are they just both included for the sake of realistic completeness of truly hellenic building options?

[QuintusSertorius]

The gymnasion is worth building in its own right for the impact on FMs stationed there: they get health-positive traits (In the Pink/In Rude Health/Hale and Hearty) which gives them bonus hit points, and as importantly prevents them picking up certain negative-health traits. It also slowly removes negative-health traits too.