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    Default How often do you get CTD?

    Just wondering how common is it to get CTD? In 2 games, I get tons at around 240-245bc which is why I can never complete a faction. I started a new game as Hayasdan and just got my first CTD at 264bc, I'm scared the same will happen. Even though all my fixes are applied.

    Just wondering if this is common or should I be worried?

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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    Since I've installed vers 1.1, which has been about 15 to 20 hours of play, I have had no CTD's. When I used 1.0 I had a CTD on average of every 5 to 6 hours of play.

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    Hmmm, I hit 260bc with 2 CTD's so far. One after during the loading screen of post-battle, and one towards the end of a battle =-/

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    Mhh, actually i stop my roman siege of iberia in around 250bc because ever second great battle caused a ctd (after winning - very sad).
    now i´m playing as getai, also around 250bc, and i´ve got no ctd since the beginning.
    probably the "barbarus flavoir", hehe

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    Default Re: AW: How often do you get CTD?

    I have the same problem too. I get CTDs when battles are over. Every third of fourth battle crashes. So I save games a lot! Do you have any ideas why?

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    Default Re: AW: How often do you get CTD?

    I tended to get one every fifth or sixth battle on the AI turn, every other where I'd won a Heroic Victory. CTDs for other reasons were very rare. I had no more than about 10 in the 550+ turns I played. Of course the game was killed by one in the end at 133BC.
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    Default Re: AW: How often do you get CTD?

    Very rarely. I've come to 197 BC with only one major CTD when trying to conquer Mtskheta. Worked around it though.
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    Default Re: AW: How often do you get CTD?

    I seem to get random CTD's. If I turn on the game after the CTD and do the exact same thing again, it won't occur. Then agian, I ussually just do "auto_win" if I get a CTD after I win a battle.

    259BC with 3 CTD's so far. All of them during battle or at the end of it.

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    Using the tips from bovi (i.e. waiting about 15 seconds after receiving the battle report screen), I haven't got any after-battle CTDs anymore.

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    Sounds something I should try, atleast 90% av all my CTDs are post-battle.
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    I haven't played all that much, only about 30 years of a Saka campaign. I got one post-battle CTD then in the first few years, but no more since that one.

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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    I haven't got any CTD's with 1.1

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    I think it also has to do something with the amount of RAM (?) someone has.
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    No CTD in 1.1 <knocks on head - erm, wood>
    I had 2 in 1.0, both around battles. First was when a Ptoly full stack attacked a badly depleted (2 men left) unit of nubians I had sent ahead as scouts. I guess the program tried to calculate the odds and couldn't count that high.
    Other one was post-battle.

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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    I think it also has to do something with the amount of RAM (?) someone has.
    Post-battle CTDs or overload-related ones probably do, but they're not a real problem. Sure you may need to redo the battle, but you can use auto_win if you want. Campaign-ending CTDs, on the other hand, are the real problem.

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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    I rarely have had any..
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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    I got 2 gigs of ram so it shouldn't be that.

    I'lll try the waiting for 15 seconds after a battle. I ussually wait a few seconds before clicking okay, but I'll see if this helps.

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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    I get CTDs very rarely. They'll usually be post-battle and those are easy to get passed with auto-calc, so I've never really had trouble with CTDs since v0.80.


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    I got 2 CTD's last night playing SAKA. 1 is when loading the last save game, the 2nd time I load it, it went well. The 2nd one is closing the construction menu of Baktra. (Why???????)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chenkai11 View Post
    I got 2 CTD's last night playing SAKA. 1 is when loading the last save game, the 2nd time I load it, it went well. The 2nd one is closing the construction menu of Baktra. (Why???????)
    sometimes construction menu closes for me when turns load too. I usually have to click on the turn event news feed on the left and under construction report, click that to open menu. If that made sense.

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    Default AW: Re: How often do you get CTD?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordmaster View Post
    Using the tips from bovi (i.e. waiting about 15 seconds after receiving the battle report screen), I haven't got any after-battle CTDs anymore.
    ohh yes, that works very good!!

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    I was getting many CTDs on my new computer, maybe up to one an hour but usually a reload autosave sorted it out. Then I read (on another game's) tech forum somewhere about the .dll problem with ati cards ativvaxx.dll not found and sure enough used event viewer, applications log to see that it was an error that always coincided with a CTD

    Solution sounded very odd to me - reboot and press F8 to boot in VGA mode, turn off AV software, reload Ati drivers, reboot as normal.

    Well, it has cut the CTD rate to about once in a couple of night's play. I never had any AV message reporting any fault with that dll and it existed in WIN32 and elsewhere before the 'fix', so I dont understand why this solution has helped .... but it has.

    I am now left with only one CTD cause (according to said Event Viewer) which looks like a function call, still working on investigating that one. Oh, and of course the most frustrating one of all that is caused by AI cities rebelling way into a campaign during the AI turn..but thats another story.

    I hope this helps someone

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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    Not had a single one so far in my new game, at 264BC. The whole "wait 15 seconds after a battle on the AI turn" business worked admirably well to preserve my Heroic Victory recently.

    EDIT: 257BC and still no crashes.
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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    i rarely got CTD's and I'm pretty sure it wasn't EB's fault, I got CTD's at the same rate i usually get CTD's (and yes I know, I should reinstall my windows :P )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelast View Post
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    You know, I never even thought to check the event log . Thanks for this tip.

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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    I have loads of CTD's at the end of a battle or after with the loading screen. I will try the 15 sec thing.
    I don't like Autocalc, as the AI will ruin my precious Vet armies.

    This is my second PC, both have done it, both had/have ATi cards. The newest PC has 2 gigs of ram!

    Are players with Nvidia cards getting the same problems? Also are there players with ATi cards, with no CTD's?
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    Default Re: How often do you get CTD?

    Funny thing is, I find armies get more experience when you autocalc, than running the battles yourself. Possibly for the same reason that casualties are generally spread evenly throughout your army on autocalc.

    250BC and I've had two CTDs, but neither during the game. Once on trying to re-load from the main game screen after saving and quitting, and once on trying to quit. Obviously neither had any impact on the game whatsoever, and didn't repeat.
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    Just got a CTD in the middle of a battle as Hayasdan pushing into Persis =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius View Post
    Possibly for the same reason that casualties are generally spread evenly throughout your army on autocalc.
    They aren't always. Sometimes only a few units engage the enemy, those could be either the first units of the stack, or only the cavalry. If you've ever seen the AI control a reinforcement army, you'll see he rushes the cavalry and the general into the battle. I guess that also happens in some auto_calc battles.

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    never, b/c i dont play EB much anymore- im too busy modding for another game....
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