Armenian Votes or Not?

[LeftEyeNine]

I really want the native insight about this after seeing Obama's favor about the topic as well.

Are American politicians really craving for "confirming the truth" or is a matter of acquiring whopping Armenian votes ?

This is not an Armenian Issue debate. Please.

P.S. Can one of the mods edit the topic into "Armenian Votes or Not ?" please? It seems biased this way. My bad.

[Lemur]

Could you post a link or an article so's we can understand what you're talking about?

[LeftEyeNine]

http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/450388.asp

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama, Amerika Ermeni Ulusal Komitesi (ANCA) adlı kuruluşun yöneticisi Ken Hachikian’a gönderdiği mektupta, “Osmanlı İmparatorluğu döneminde 1915 ile 1923 arasında meydana gelen olayların ABD tarafından soykırım olarak tanınması gerektiği yönündeki görüşünüze katılıyorum” dedi. Obama, “Bu trajik gerçeği tanımalıyız. Bush yönetiminin bunu tanımamasının özrü yok ve yönetimin tutumunu değiştirmesi için çaba göstermeye devam edeceğim” dedi.

"Barack Obama, in his letter delivered to Ken Hachikian, the chief of the instituton named ANCA, said that "I am in favor of your views toward the necessity of the events occured between 1915-1923 during the reign of Ototman Empire recognized as a genocide by USA". Obama continued "We have to recognize this tragic truth. There is no excuse to why Bush government did not and I will keep up with my efforts for the governors to change their attitude"

I see such support and promise from every USA president candidate every now and then. I remember Hillary Clinton (although never made it to being a candidate) and Al Gore acting the same way. That's why I wanted to know what the cause really is.

[Fragony]

Probably related with Turkey and the EU, EU wants Turkey to say it, and the conservatives are the ones so much in favor of an EU with Turkey. Armenian votes, how many can there be?

[LeftEyeNine]

Armenian votes, how many can there be?

Ah yes, seriously, any statistics regarding the population of Armenian originated US citizens ?

P.S. Thanks, BG.

[Fragony]

Ah yes, seriously,

Assuming you were mocking me here, even if there are a lot they are likely to be very centralised and only a force locally.

[Odin]

Ah yes, seriously, any statistics regarding the population of Armenian originated US citizens ?

To be honest there isnt a lot of data on it. I took a look at the US census site but armenian isnt an ethnicity choice on the census.


So there is no way to say definatively what the stats are, this site states 500,000 to 2,000,000 but its clearly an estimate and perhaps bias.

Regarding your questions about Obama, this seems to be a real easy foriegn policy position. We recognized armenia in the early 90's and if I recall it wasnt at the compliments of the turkish. Essentially, its a pretty solid and well treaded "safe" foriegn policy subject for U.S. domestic consumption.

I think it has little to do with the international issues LEN, not that you were desiring to go down that road, but its a what we call in the states a slam dunk. domestically, its a non contreversial position that dosent wrankle to many international feathers, yet adhere's to the mainstream beliefs of the U.S. electorate.

[Banquo's Ghost]

P.S. Can one of the mods edit the topic into "Armenian Votes or Not ?" please? It seems biased this way. My bad.

Done.

Is there a large Armenian vote base in the US?

[Kralizec]

Lefteyenine, has it occurred to you that people could hold certain opinions about what happened back then without actually having met an Armenian or a Turk?

[LeftEyeNine]

Lefteyenine, has it occurred to you that people could hold certain opinions about what happened back then without actually having met an Armenian or a Turk?

Hrm. I did not meet a Jew nor a German indeed. However thinking that it was one of your relatives suffering in a gas chamber, you can only empathy with Jews.

When you are surrounded by a certain lobby, and when it is politics, sounds dubious though. That's why I wanted American insight.

[KarlXII]

I really want the native insight about this after seeing Obama's favor about the topic as well.

Are American politicians really craving for "confirming the truth" or is a matter of acquiring whopping Armenian votes ?

This is not an Armenian Issue debate. Please.

P.S. Can one of the mods edit the topic into "Armenian Votes or Not ?" please? It seems biased this way. My bad.

I suspet this is more of a campaigning thing, trying to tie votes not just from Armenians, but sympathizers or those who just agree.

If you were wondering, "During the United States 2000 Census, 385,488 Americans indicated either full or partial Armenian ancestry"

[LeftEyeNine]

I suspet this is more of a campaigning thing, trying to tie votes not just from Armenians, but sympathizers or those who just agree.

Hrm, now that's another point of view that makes political sense, thank you.

[KarlXII]

Hrm, now that's another point of view that makes political sense, thank you.

No problem. Just an off topic question: Do you believe the Armenian Genocide occured?

[LeftEyeNine]

I've pretty much debated this issue in the Org. Actually it was my first serious topic here 3 years ago. Several times here and even in Monastery too.

Believing in that my reply won't be further discussed, just for your information: No I exactly do not.