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    Default General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    Greetings, young scholars.

    Today, Strategos Haxios is in need of the general opinion. Since he has taken command of the Arche Makedonia, the Pahlava have been conquering like madmen. When the Pahlava have conquered the Arche Seleukeia, Strategos Haxios fears that -- ahem, he is concerned that they might pose a threat to some smaller factions like Baktria...in the year 197 before the birth of Christ.

    The year is 197 before the birth of Christ (whoever that may be)


    So Strategos Haxios has come up with a daring and cunning plan. More cunning than daring though, but to the point; he thought of magically taking over the Pahlavan steppe dominions and giving them away to a certain steppe faction. However, Strategos Haxios is uncertain whether he should give it to the Sauromatae or the Saka Rauka.

    So Strategos Haxios once again asks -- ahem, demands that you young scholars post your ideas in this thread.

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    Both. Giving something wholesale to just one faction is never a good solution. Keep your enemies divided and weak, not united and strong.

    Split the lands from the Caspian up in half, adding one half to what the Saka already have, and the other half to the Sauromatae.
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    Default Re: General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    Are you going to magically FD them away, or actually conquer the steppe with your mighty armies? In either case, Quintus is right, but if you must choose one faction, let it be the Sauromatae- they seem pretty weak as it is.
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    Default Re: General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    Sauromatae. They are almost exterminated; they could use a break.

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    I'd give the steppe holdings of Hayasdan and Getai to Sauromatae and the majority of the Pahlav steppe holdings to Saka with one or two to Sauromatae.

    I'd also try to give Gaul back to the Aedui (from both Sweboz and Lusotanna), for a balance of powers in Europe...


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus View Post
    I'd give the steppe holdings of Hayasdan and Getai to Sauromatae and the majority of the Pahlav steppe holdings to Saka with one or two to Sauromatae.

    I'd also try to give Gaul back to the Aedui (from both Sweboz and Lusotanna), for a balance of powers in Europe...
    Could also give the Belgae provinces to the Casse to throw something else into the mixture while reconsituting the Aedui.
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    Default Re: General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    Yeah, I agree. The Casse could really turn the balance there, with their income from the British Isles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Yeah, I agree. The Casse could really turn the balance there, with their income from the British Isles.
    Or they may not, since they haven't actually united the islands yet.

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    Default Re: General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    Give them all to the Sauromatae.
    <=============pure bias.

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    Default Re: General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    Might I chip in an outsider option and say "give it all to the Aedui"? I mean everything, not just Gaul. It could make for an *cough* interesting situation...

    Otherwise, listen not to foul-mouthed heretics such as Aaldaemon. The Saka are your friends. They wish you well. You want to give them that land. You have to. It's your duty as a Strategos.

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    Give it to the Sauromatae. The Sauromatae loves you, and adores you. Already they hail you as the living god you surely are, and they would never attack you. In fact, after you have given them all that land, you should leave your entire border to them undefended, because the Sauromatae would never exploit that weakness.
    You should give the entire world to the Sauromatae, including your own lands. Retire to Krete while your loyal subjects the Sauromatae deal with all the problems of the world. You deserve a break.
    While you&#180;re at it you should also give all your money to the Sauromatae, and use your godly powers to give them even more money and soldiers. Truly this will forever prove your might.
    So I say, give everything to the Sauromatae, it&#180;s for your own good.
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    Default AW: General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    Oh yes, that would have been my second best advice too.

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    Man, that is some "brown death" you got there in Gaul ;)
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    Default Re: General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    Give it to Carthage.

    I'm serious.


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    Default Re: General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    hmm give it to Saka otherwise they just go conquer it

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    Default Re: General Opinion - Saka or Sauromatae?

    Give it to Carthage.

    I'm serious.
    Whoa, TPC, this must be your shortest post ever. I half-expected the post to be something about the relationships between Arsaces II with a Sauromatae leader and that's why I should give it to them, or something in that general direction.

    Anyways, here's how everything looks now:



    I gave Khiva and that other 'homeland' province of the Pahlava to the Saka, but they immediately declared war and took it back. So now they're even sieging Marakanda (the Pahlava). I think this might even be the end of the Saka now.
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