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    I received a disconcerting article in an email yesterday from a friend about the predictions of one Juval Aviv, the former body guard of Golda Mier, who also was the subject of the move Munich. It's a bit long so, but a thought provoking read.
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    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent whom the movie 'Munich' was about. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.

    In a lecture in NYC a few weeks ago he shared information that EVERY American needs to know but our government has not shared. His bio is below, his book is 'Staying Safe'.

    First is what he had to say in regard to the Bush Administration, 9/11 and Iraq and then his positions and predictions for the next attack on the U.S. He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week - O'Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show and unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack occurred.

    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. The Administration ridiculed him and refused to respond. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant - but still the Administration does not listen to him.

    Now for the scary stuff .... He predicts the next attack on the U.S. is coming within the next few months. Forget hijacking airplanes because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as the people on the plane will not go down quietly. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke- we are being reactionary versus looking at strategies that are effective.

    1) Our machines are outdated. They look for metal and the new explosives are made of plastic

    2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire - we now have to take off our shoes, a group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives - now we can't bring liquids on board. He is waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on their underwear and light up in a plane or in the terminal and then we will all have to travel naked!

    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates, he says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times and on the front end when people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. Israel checks bags before people can enter the airport.

    Now, back to his predictions: He says the next attack will come in a few months and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places that people congregate: Disneyland, Las Vegas, Bi g Cities (NY, SFO, Chicago, etc...) and there it will be shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, casinos, etc.. as well as rural America(Wyoming, Montana, etc.). The attack will be simultaneous detonations around the country (they like big impact) 5-8 cities including rural areas. They won't need to use suicide bombers because at largely populated places like the MGM Grand in Vegas -they can simply valet park!

    He says this is well known in intelligence circles but our government does not want to alarm Americans. However, he also said that the US will attack Iran and Syria before Bush leaves office. In addition, since we don't have enough troops The US will likely use small, strategic nuclear weapons regardless that the headlines the next day will read 'US Nukes Islamic World' and the world will be a different place to such an extent that global warming will be irrelevant. He travels regularly to the Middle East and he knows his stuff.

    On a good note - he says we don't have to worry about being nuked - he says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons- they like suicide as the frontline approach.

    He also says the next level of terrorists will not be coming from abroad, but will be homegrown - having attended our schools and universities - but will have traveled frequently back and forth to the Middle East. They will know and understand Americans bu t we won't understand them - we still only have a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks and we need that to change he said...What can we do?

    From a intelligence perspective he says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence but follow Israel, Ireland and England's example of human intelligence both from an infiltration perspective as well as trust citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens but our government treats us like babies and thinks we can't handle it and will panic.

    He did a test for Congress recently putting an empty briefcase in 5 major spots in 5 US cities and not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago - someone tried to steal it! In Israel an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds with a citizen shouting 'Unattended Bag' and the area cleared slowly, calmly and immediately by the people themselves. Unfortunately, we haven't hurt enough yet for us to be that concerned....

    He also discussed how many children were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11 without parents to pick them up and the schools did not have a plan. Do you have a plan with your kids, schools and families if you cannot reach each other by phone or if you cannot return to your house? If you cannot get to your child's school - do they know what to do? We should all have a plan.

    He said that our government's plan after the next attack is to immediately cut-off Everyone’s ability to use their telephone, cell phone, blackberry because they don't want terrorists to be able to talk to one another - do you have a plan if you cannot communicate directly with those that you love.

    The Today Show began with a segment that Al Qaeda was resurfacing - the same kind of action on the Pakistani border occurred before 9/11... It is scary, but we do not have panic, we just need to be aware....

    Bio follows:

    Juval Aviv holds an M.A. in Business from Tel Aviv University and is
    President and CEO of Interfor, Inc. Based in New York with offices around the world, founded in 1979, Interfor provides foreign and domestic intelligence services to the legal, corporate and financial communities and conducts investigations around the world. In addition, Mr. Aviv serves as a special consultant to the U.S. Congress and other policy makers on issues of terrorism, fraud and money laundering.

    A leading authority on terrorist networks, Mr. Aviv served as lead
    investigator for Pan Am Airways into the Pan Am 103-Lockerbie terrorist
    bombing. He was featured in the recent film, Munich, as the leader of the Israeli team that tracked down the terrorists who kidnapped the Israeli Olympic team. Interfor's services encompass white-collar crime
    investigations, asset search and recovery, corporate due diligence, litigation support, fraud investigations, internal compliance investigations, security and vulnerability assessments. Since its inception, Interfors asset investigation services have recovered over $2 billion worldwide for its clients.

    Before founding Interfor, Mr. Aviv served as an officer in the Israel Defense Force (Major, retired) leading an elite Commando/Intelligence Unit, and was later selected by the Israeli Secret Service (Mossad) to participate in a number of intelligence and special operations in many countries in the late
    1960s and 1970s. While working as a consultant with El Al, Mr. Aviv surveyed the existing security measures in place and updated El Al's security program, making El Al the safest airline in business today.

    Most recently, Mr. Aviv wrote Staying Safe: The Complete Guide to Protecting Yourself, Your Family, and Your Business, (2004,Harper Resource).

    He has been a guest on ABC Nightline, FOX News, CNN, BBC Newsnight, ZDF (German National Television) and RAI (Italian National Television) and has been featured in numerous articles in major magazines and newspapers worldwide.


    I am looking for some well thought out opinions, or more like estimations from my well read and informed Org. friends as to what they think of Mr. Aviv's predictions and advice, and also what they might think the terrorists are up to in the future. What will their next move be against the United States or its allies? According to the article, Mr. Aviv had already predicted several events, such as the type of attack made on 9-11-01, and also the bombings later in London. Both of these within a month or less of their fruition. I looked him up on Wiki and found him to be a legitimate subject, and thought his views could get a good discussion going.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juval_Aviv
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    I know that I'm safe! If terrorists come to Australia they'll target Melbourne or Sydney!

    With regards to the article it is certainly thought-provoking. If the counter-terrorism methods currently used in airports and the like are outmoded, then there is the argument that they could be relaxed. The issue is that terrorists can then fall back on these 'outdated' methods.

    Of course the American government doesn't want to alarm people. If there was mass panic then it would make it easier for terrorists to get things done. Hysteria is always a bad idea. You understand I hope that I'm not advocating secrecy, but I can see the point behind this.

    On another point, it certainly makes me wonder why the American government employs him as an adviser, and given that he has been correct on a number of occaisions, then proceeds to ignore him. Typical of many governments true, but not particularly confidence inspiring is it?

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    He did a test for Congress recently putting an empty briefcase in 5 major spots in 5 US cities and not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago - someone tried to steal it! In Israel an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds with a citizen shouting 'Unattended Bag' and the area cleared slowly, calmly and immediately by the people themselves. Unfortunately, we haven't hurt enough yet for us to be that concerned....
    I find this particularly disturbing. If a suspicious briefcase is unnoticed that is definitely a concern. There is no mention of how long the test was run but still you'd expect someone to notice.

    With regards to where is at risk. I'd say any major city in the US, also many Europen Capitals would be a risk. Disneyland again would be high-profile and high density. In terms of method, I don't know that much about weapons and explosives to tell.

    I know one thing though... it will be massive, and it will come as a surprise to the majority of the population.
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    Interesting read rotor, but this:

    He says this is well known in intelligence circles but our government does not want to alarm Americans. However, he also said that the US will attack Iran and Syria before Bush leaves office. In addition, since we don't have enough troops The US will likely use small, strategic nuclear weapons regardless that the headlines the next day will read 'US Nukes Islamic World' and the world will be a different place to such an extent that global warming will be irrelevant. He travels regularly to the Middle East and he knows his stuff.

    Sorry, not a snowball's chance in hell on nuke usage, and I SERIOUSLY doubt that we're going into Iran or Syria guns ablazin' without some kind of serious action to justify it, something on the scale of 9/11 that can be squarely pinned on either nation. I'd like to think (hope?) that the American people have woken up to our current administration's BS and snow tactics in terms of "evidence" used to justify actions such as the current Iraq situation, such as the nonexistant WMDs Saddam was supposedly hiding.

    Thanks for the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio
    I know that I'm safe! If terrorists come to Australia they'll target Melbourne or Sydney!
    I know I'm safe, Australia isn't big enough nor important enough for "terrorists" to strike (I hope).
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    Seconded, but even so... who would ever come to Perth????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio View Post
    Seconded, but even so... who would ever come to Perth????
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    Ha, i take your Perth and raise it an Adelaide.

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    So it appears that Aviv lied about his past , lied about his experience and lied about his predictions .
    Is he just trying to sell books ?
    So can any credence be put into an article by an airport security guard who was sacked for being unreliable and dishonest ?
    Thanks for the link rotor . On wiki it is always worth checking the references at the bottom rather that what is written on the page itself as you may find that they don't match at all .

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    Following Tribes advice, snoopes mentions that this varning came in July 2005.

    We all remember that tragic attack in August 2005 right?
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    Ironside .
    Its just being recycled to hype up the fear factor for the election .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    Ironside .
    Its just being recycled to hype up the fear factor for the election .


    And to keep up kind of a trend, how many people do you think will die in Africa due to other violence and neglect before the next terrorist attack?
    That may sound a bit weird but why be worried about a few rich, spoiled westerners who smoke because they don't mind dieing early anyway (life stops at 30 yaddayadda blabla...) when thousands of people in Africa who want to live die every day?

    Yeah, I'm crossthreadreferencing the Perspective thread and the one on Zimbabwe here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    And what is there to blow-up?
    Dolls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Dolls?
    That's all the Terrorists are going to get!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    Interesting read rotor, but this:

    He says this is well known in intelligence circles but our government does not want to alarm Americans. However, he also said that the US will attack Iran and Syria before Bush leaves office. In addition, since we don't have enough troops The US will likely use small, strategic nuclear weapons regardless that the headlines the next day will read 'US Nukes Islamic World' and the world will be a different place to such an extent that global warming will be irrelevant. He travels regularly to the Middle East and he knows his stuff.

    Sorry, not a snowball's chance in hell on nuke usage, and I SERIOUSLY doubt that we're going into Iran or Syria guns ablazin' without some kind of serious action to justify it, something on the scale of 9/11 that can be squarely pinned on either nation. I'd like to think (hope?) that the American people have woken up to our current administration's BS and snow tactics in terms of "evidence" used to justify actions such as the current Iraq situation, such as the nonexistant WMDs Saddam was supposedly hiding.

    Thanks for the article.
    I tend to agree with you here Whacker. I tend to discount an all out nuclear attack, but I wouldn't rule out an air campaign with the use of conventional and precision munitions. As you claim though, it will have to be something pretty solid for the US to escalate and expand operations into Iran. I doubt they would do it simply because Iran is supporting insurgency groups in Iraq. At the most, that only calls for small scale retaliatory strikes. These types of attacks could be used to push Iran into a serious fight that could lead to a full scale war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    So it appears that Aviv lied about his past , lied about his experience and lied about his predictions .
    Is he just trying to sell books ?
    So can any credence be put into an article by an airport security guard who was sacked for being unreliable and dishonest ?
    Thanks for the link rotor . On wiki it is always worth checking the references at the bottom rather that what is written on the page itself as you may find that they don't match at all .
    Hmm...yes. I did think that all this is hype to drum up interest in order to sell more books. Good point about the airport security guard. After reading more about this guy, it's not clear that one should take him at face value. Then again, casting doubts about a source by making him out as a liar or a crackpot is a common government tactic to discredit said source.

    PS: Here is one of the links that puts him in an awkward light:

    http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/juvalaviv.asp
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    Then again, casting doubts about a source by making him out as a liar or a crackpot is a common government tactic to discredit said source.
    OK where were those imminent attacks in 2005 ? why was he not on Fox predicting the London bombings like he claims? why at the time of the film did mossad operatives call B/S on Spielburgs film ? why did those actually involved in the assasinations go public on the events ? Why was his "evidence" given to Bush not mentioned in any of the 9/11 reports on pre attack intelligence ?Why was his work on Lockerbie just a re-hash of others work that had already been put in the public domain ?
    Thats a lot of questions isn't it
    Can you supply any answers that might give some credit to him ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotorgun
    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates, he says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times and on the front end when people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. Israel checks bags before people can enter the airport.
    It is true that in Israel the bags are checked before check-in...but the check is done inside the airport and you stand in a very large line of people before your bags are checked....I was in Tel Aviv just last year...so he doesn´t seem to know what he´s talking about, the kind of attack that he describes can happen in Israel too, the only extra precaution outside the airport over there is that you have to show your passport before you enter the airport building.


    Like other have said, most likely just stirring up interest for his book, and beating the fear drum for the elections....and if he really was the leader of operation "Wrath of God" I wonder if in his book he explains how his team managed to murder supposedly innocent people that were unconnected with the events in Munich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    OK where were those imminent attacks in 2005 ? why was he not on Fox predicting the London bombings like he claims? why at the time of the film did mossad operatives call B/S on Spielburgs film ? why did those actually involved in the assasinations go public on the events ? Why was his "evidence" given to Bush not mentioned in any of the 9/11 reports on pre attack intelligence ?Why was his work on Lockerbie just a re-hash of others work that had already been put in the public domain ?
    Thats a lot of questions isn't it
    Can you supply any answers that might give some credit to him ?
    In answer to that last question no. I certainly can't supply any such answers. One, I haven't the recourses for such an investigation, nor do I have the time. Anything that I might provide by way of an answer is mere supposition. I wouldn't even try to attempt it. I do think that the article is just a good vehicle for us to discuss what folks think that the terrorists might do? There are way too many conspiracy theories out there already for me to be taken in by one more, but suppose he might be right about some of his intelligence?

    I do feel that he is correct that the terrorists won't attempt another airplane attack again. They have blown their wad here and even though our airport security is still lacking, I doubt they could easily accomplish it again. He is right that passengers are much more aware, and likely to resist. I think that they are much more likely to go for something spectacular like an amusement park, a highly visible public event, or a national shrine. Simultaneous attacks are very much a possibility. What would make it easy is the very lax attitude of our society towards security. Americans hate to be inconvenienced...merely waiting in line at the drive-thorough is a major trial of patience for most.

    Another reason why it would be easy to accomplish is our still very much open borders with pitiful security and huge gaps making it child's play to get into our country. Once in it is just a matter of coordination of assets via cell phone to organize the operations. If Timothy McVeigh and friends could plant a bomb and destroy the federal building in Oklahoma City, and he was no mastermind, certainly Al Queda could do much worse in several places at once.

    No Tribe, I make no claims that this guy is James Bond, but he does have some points. Oh yeah, and imagine Hollywood getting it wrong about the story and Mossad denying their voracity? Has tinsel town ever been anything else but a place were dreams are made lately?
    Of course, the government would never take steps to make sure that any warnings he might have given are deniable.....and pigs do fly-right next to the fairies with boots.
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    I don't expect anymore attacks on western soil, if I were them I would sit down and watch scared people do the work for them. And, I see that. Really I am just as bad.

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    I do think that the article is just a good vehicle for us to discuss what folks think that the terrorists might do?
    Went down that road a good while back , before the London bombings . Rail stations and especially undergrounds were the #1 choice (including the channel tunnel) , airport terminals were a big second followed by oil refineries and theme parks .
    My choices I think were the Staten Island ferries , cross channel ferries and the Rotterdam floodgates at spring tide .
    If Aviv had been paying attention during his time at El-Al he would know that one weakness they are regularly testing for is putting fake bombs in cargo shipments that are put on passenger flights...and the results of those tests are not very encouraging .

    Oh yeah, and imagine Hollywood getting it wrong about the story and Mossad denying their voracity?
    Actually it was Mosad agents slagging the film and slagging the results of the operation which ended with a huge #3up in Scandanavia .

    So in short Rotor this intelligence expert came up with , a pile of crap , some clear untuths , some stuff that had already been published by others and some guesswork that the average poster on a games forum can come up with...
    Its so tempting to make a comment on a Fox "experts" abilities isn't it

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotorgun View Post
    I am looking for some well thought out opinions, or more like estimations from my well read and informed Org. friends as to what they think of Mr. Aviv's predictions and advice,
    My estimation is that people who are involved in special operations and have access to sensative data rarely translate it into commercial enterprise. They stay in the confines of the communities they selected and make their way through those circles.

    I would take Mr Aviv with a large grain of salt and remember sun tzu on dispositions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    My estimation is that people who are involved in special operations and have access to sensative data rarely translate it into commercial enterprise. They stay in the confines of the communities they selected and make their way through those circles.

    I would take Mr Aviv with a large grain of salt and remember sun tzu on dispositions

    "To triumph in battle and be universally acclaimed "expert" is not the acme of skill, for to lift an autumn down requires no great strength, to distinquish between the sun and moon is no test of vision, to hear the tunderclap is no indication of acute hearing"
    So true, and aptly put. I love the sayings of Sun Tsu. I can relate to them as a soldier/philosoper as I fancy myself in my fantasies. There is something to be said in his estimation of our security capabilities though. Even if a dog occasionally barks at a rabbit while guarding the chicken house, it's wrong to think that he's always barking at a rabbit.

    Tribesman:So in short Rotor this intelligence expert came up with , a pile of crap , some clear untuths , some stuff that had already been published by others and some guesswork that the average poster on a games forum can come up with...
    Its so tempting to make a comment on a Fox "experts" abilities isn't it
    Well....when one has one's foot in one's mouth, it's difficult to avoid everyone seeing it. That would be me Tribe, Mr. average games forum poster child.

    It seemed like such a good article too! I'll need to do a bit more homework to surprise the likes of you cynical fellow backroomers.
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    I have worked out the next possible location of a terror attack .
    It was planned to be under devestating daves bed , but unfortunately with all the liberals atheists and commies under there the jihadis have not got room to assemble the explosive device .
    They are now planning on moving to the closet to complete their work , they just have to wait for Dave to come out so they can finish the bomb .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    I have worked out the next possible location of a terror attack .
    It was planned to be under devestating daves bed , but unfortunately with all the liberals atheists and commies under there the jihadis have not got room to assemble the explosive device .
    They are now planning on moving to the closet to complete their work , they just have to wait for Dave to come out so they can finish the bomb .
    How many jihadis does it take to blow up an Orgah backroomer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    How many jihadis does it take to blow up an Orgah backroomer?
    Probably just one, Whacker the Hacker is his name, hackin' your system is his game! (To be said while James Bond themes play in the backround)
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    Terrorist tactic is similar to partisans tactic. They might strike into all places but they need at least minimal support of local population or minimal connection with local population.
    1) Thats why they were able to hit USA (many muslims and immingrants there)
    2) Same with London and Madrid (big muslim minorities where they can find support or where they can dissappear)
    3) Same with Pakistan (big support for muslim radicals).

    Same reasons are why they will not into several countries into Middle Europe like Poland or Ukraine (small muslim minority, mostly from Czeczenia).

    I think next target might be Pakistan - their government is stronger than 2 years ago but still weak comparing to west democracy. Other option are Italy - perfect target for muslim terrorist.
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    I always thought the terrorists were going to bomb Iran next..
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    The terrorists have ALREADY struck again, or didn't any of you catch the 'Bomb' at the 2007 MTV Music Awards?



    To quote IA, I'll get my coat & hat...
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    The terrorists are locked in combat with Devastatin' Dave ... in my pants. It's true, an epic, Manichean struggle is taking place in my trousers. I'll let you know who wins in a few minutes ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    The terrorists are locked in combat with Devastatin' Dave ... in my pants. It's true, an epic, Manichean struggle is taking place in my trousers. I'll let you know who wins in a few minutes ...
    I hope DevDave observes the no-flying zone in your pants.
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