Mercenary Generals

**QuintusSertorius** · 06-22-2008, 17:05

Does anyone have pictures of the unit cards for all of these units? For anyone unaware, they're the mercenary "family members" (who aren't really - they're not added to your family tree) who can be hired with the top tier regional barracks.

The ones I'm aware of so far:
Hellenistic Mercenary General
Italic General
Celtic Lesser King
Libian General
Eastern Mercenary General
Mercenary Nomadic Noble
Germanic Mercenary General

If there's any others, I'd like to hear about them. So far I've only ever used the Greek, Italic, Celtic and Libian ones. Only discovered the Nomadic general today when I was checking out the 1.0 RV for Bosphorous.

Any experiences with the others? Are they any good? How do other people use them?

**teh1337tim** · 06-22-2008, 17:22

i build the highest tiers in the big cities (12kpop+)
i use the generals as similar to family members but
i use them to govern exterior settlements and build A LOT of rcon towers to see if an enemy is coming then i use it to recruit crap load of mercs or just help govern the city to not riot etc
in italy
i use the merc greek generals from sicily and taras
to govern the south
example
when a governer gets to 40+
i recruit one and stick it with him
that way the city doesnt riot or loose as much income when he dies

in an army
i use any merc general to command the calvalry (if its italic/greek etc)
if its celtic (foot generals) i let them command heavy infantry in the left (with the mercs)
thats what my roman armies tho
:)

**||Lz3||** · 06-22-2008, 17:31

do you recruit them in your level 5 barracks??

if it wasnt for the carthaginians I wouldnt have seen any of them

**Strategos Alexandros** · 06-22-2008, 17:56

Level 5 regional barracks, yes.
I've only ever used Hellenistic, Italic and Celtic client rulers personally.

**QuintusSertorius** · 06-22-2008, 19:42

Originally Posted by ||Lz3||

do you recruit them in your level 5 barracks??

if it wasnt for the carthaginians I wouldnt have seen any of them

Level 5 regional barracks, which requires a type IV government to be able to build it. Thus if you never use type IV governments, you won't be able to recruit them.

I'm using them to partner with my FMs in my Pergamon game right now, along with as governors so that my family don't have to carry all the burden. Got two settlements (Pergamon and Byzantion) which can recruit them, I think Nikaia isn't long off being able to as well. For added irony, I actually prefer my regional troops to my factional ones in my current game, not least because the core of my fighting line - Classical Hoplites - are regional.

The Greek one has the Lonchophoroi Hippeis unit as his bodyguard, who are quite useful. Better than my FM's bodyguard at any rate, and more of them. The Italic one has Campanian equites as his, they're not bad.

**Swordmaster** · 06-22-2008, 20:30

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

Level 5 regional barracks, which requires a type IV government to be able to build it. Thus if you never use type IV governments, you won't be able to recruit them.

I'm using them to partner with my FMs in my Pergamon game right now, along with as governors so that my family don't have to carry all the burden. Got two settlements (Pergamon and Byzantion) which can recruit them, I think Nikaia isn't long off being able to as well. For added irony, I actually prefer my regional troops to my factional ones in my current game, not least because the core of my fighting line - Classical Hoplites - are regional.

The Greek one has the Lonchophoroi Hippeis unit as his bodyguard, who are quite useful. Better than my FM's bodyguard at any rate, and more of them. The Italic one has Campanian equites as his, they're not bad.

Lonchophoroi better than Hetairoi?

**QuintusSertorius** · 06-22-2008, 23:55

Originally Posted by Swordmaster

Lonchophoroi better than Hetairoi?

Better armour and better melee skill than my hetairoi. More of them, too with a general unit.

**jhhowell** · 06-23-2008, 00:23

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

Better armour and better melee skill than my hetairoi. More of them, too with a general unit.

They're not Lonchophoroi Hippeis. And technically your FM bodyguards aren't hetairoi, though I forget which of the two is better. From 1.0, I can say that greek FM > recruitable greek general > lonchophoroi/prodromoi/etc. Maybe that's changed, but I'd be surprised if so. The unit size is the main advantage the recruitable guys have, in my experience.

**QuintusSertorius** · 06-23-2008, 00:34

Hmm, well they use the same skin (as the Lonchophoroi), but their stats are definitely better than my FMs; I was a little surprised when I checked the two and noticed that.

**Tyrfingr** · 06-23-2008, 00:39

I usually train a mercenary general to act as "2nd-in-Command" in my regional armies. For an example, in my pontic campaign I have a FM of Galatian ethnicitiy as 1st in Command of my galatian army, with a celtic general as second in command.

I have used hellenistic, germanic, nomadic and celtic mercenary generals

**Olaf The Great** · 06-23-2008, 00:50

Yeah Mollosian Agema have -5 armor and makes up for that with some extra stamina.

Isn't their charge still higher?

But yeah Mercenary generals are good(except the Nomad one...

**QuintusSertorius** · 06-23-2008, 19:32

Just had two of my FMs get stuck in melee with a Lonchophoroi Hippeis unit; even though they were using their swords they still didn't come off very well.