I know I'm safe, Australia isn't big enough nor important enough for "terrorists" to strike (I hope).Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio
I know I'm safe, Australia isn't big enough nor important enough for "terrorists" to strike (I hope).Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio
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And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra
Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts
Seconded, but even so... who would ever come to Perth????
Nihil nobis metuendum est, praeter metum ipsum. - Caesar
We have not to fear anything, except fear itself.
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est iter in silvis, ubi caelum condidit umbra
Iuppiter, et rebus nox abstulit atra colorem. - Vergil
So it appears that Aviv lied about his past , lied about his experience and lied about his predictions .
Is he just trying to sell books ?
So can any credence be put into an article by an airport security guard who was sacked for being unreliable and dishonest ?
Thanks for the link rotor . On wiki it is always worth checking the references at the bottom rather that what is written on the page itself as you may find that they don't match at all .
Following Tribes advice, snoopes mentions that this varning came in July 2005.
We all remember that tragic attack in August 2005 right?![]()
We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?
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Ironside .
Its just being recycled to hype up the fear factor for the election .
And to keep up kind of a trend, how many people do you think will die in Africa due to other violence and neglect before the next terrorist attack?
That may sound a bit weird but why be worried about a few rich, spoiled westerners who smoke because they don't mind dieing early anyway (life stops at 30 yaddayadda blabla...) when thousands of people in Africa who want to live die every day?
Yeah, I'm crossthreadreferencing the Perspective thread and the one on Zimbabwe here.
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Hmm...yes. I did think that all this is hype to drum up interest in order to sell more books. Good point about the airport security guard. After reading more about this guy, it's not clear that one should take him at face value. Then again, casting doubts about a source by making him out as a liar or a crackpot is a common government tactic to discredit said source.
PS: Here is one of the links that puts him in an awkward light:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/juvalaviv.asp
Last edited by rotorgun; 06-23-2008 at 13:50.
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Onasander...the general must neither be so undecided that he entirely distrusts himself, nor so obstinate as not to think that anyone can have a better idea...for such a man...is bound to make many costly mistakes
Editing my posts due to poor typing and grammer is a way of life.
OK where were those imminent attacks in 2005 ? why was he not on Fox predicting the London bombings like he claims? why at the time of the film did mossad operatives call B/S on Spielburgs film ? why did those actually involved in the assasinations go public on the events ? Why was his "evidence" given to Bush not mentioned in any of the 9/11 reports on pre attack intelligence ?Why was his work on Lockerbie just a re-hash of others work that had already been put in the public domain ?Then again, casting doubts about a source by making him out as a liar or a crackpot is a common government tactic to discredit said source.
Thats a lot of questions isn't it
Can you supply any answers that might give some credit to him ?
In answer to that last question no. I certainly can't supply any such answers. One, I haven't the recourses for such an investigation, nor do I have the time. Anything that I might provide by way of an answer is mere supposition. I wouldn't even try to attempt it. I do think that the article is just a good vehicle for us to discuss what folks think that the terrorists might do? There are way too many conspiracy theories out there already for me to be taken in by one more, but suppose he might be right about some of his intelligence?
I do feel that he is correct that the terrorists won't attempt another airplane attack again. They have blown their wad here and even though our airport security is still lacking, I doubt they could easily accomplish it again. He is right that passengers are much more aware, and likely to resist. I think that they are much more likely to go for something spectacular like an amusement park, a highly visible public event, or a national shrine. Simultaneous attacks are very much a possibility. What would make it easy is the very lax attitude of our society towards security. Americans hate to be inconvenienced...merely waiting in line at the drive-thorough is a major trial of patience for most.
Another reason why it would be easy to accomplish is our still very much open borders with pitiful security and huge gaps making it child's play to get into our country. Once in it is just a matter of coordination of assets via cell phone to organize the operations. If Timothy McVeigh and friends could plant a bomb and destroy the federal building in Oklahoma City, and he was no mastermind, certainly Al Queda could do much worse in several places at once.
No Tribe, I make no claims that this guy is James Bond, but he does have some points. Oh yeah, and imagine Hollywood getting it wrong about the story and Mossad denying their voracity?Has tinsel town ever been anything else but a place were dreams are made lately?
Of course, the government would never take steps to make sure that any warnings he might have given are deniable.....and pigs do fly-right next to the fairies with boots.
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Onasander...the general must neither be so undecided that he entirely distrusts himself, nor so obstinate as not to think that anyone can have a better idea...for such a man...is bound to make many costly mistakes
Editing my posts due to poor typing and grammer is a way of life.
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