Why are Theurophoroi so weak?

[QuintusSertorius]

What is this "Unit Compare"? I know what it sounds like, but where can I get it?

It's one of the add-ons, the others of which are the TrivialScript and the Recruitment Viewer, that come with 1.1.

[Apgad]

It's one of the add-ons, the others of which are the TrivialScript and the Recruitment Viewer, that come with 1.1.

OK, thanks, I can see it now. I'm getting problems with IE stopping it from running scripts or ActiveX controls. I've had a play around with security settings but am having no luck. Does anyone know what I have to allow to get it to run properly?

[Tellos Athenaios]

OK, thanks, I can see it now. I'm getting problems with IE stopping it from running scripts or ActiveX controls. I've had a play around with security settings but am having no luck. Does anyone know what I have to allow to get it to run properly?

When it asks "do you want to allow this site to run ActiveX content" or something, click "yes/ok". Something flashy about the address bar.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Thureophoroi are not weak. They just ate up Klerouchon Phalanxes and Klerouchon Agema, together with Galathraikes and Keltohellenikoi. They are good at throwing javelins, and they are also decent in holding the line. Did you ever try to charge head-on at a full strength Thureophoroi unit with Hetairoi? Hetairoi are pretty much the best heavy cavalry unit of the mediterranean, and they won't manage this task.

Peltasts are indeed awesome, especially Thraikian. In my recent assault on Pergamon one breach in the wall was defended by two depleted units of Peltastai, one normal and one Thraikian. I've sent forward Pezhetairoi with swords and off-guard-mode, and they got decimated by 50%. Then I've sent forth two units of Hoplitai, supported by javelin-cavalry throwing from the outside. One unit of Hoplitai lost 20%, the other one 50%.

[Arutima]

Thureoiphoroi are not supposed to be the ones holding the line, they are , like their description indicate, a middle ground between peltastai and hoplitai.

in any of my successor armies, i usually use 2 Thureoiphoroi and two peltastai, each guarding the flank, behind the Thorakitai or classical hoplites guarding my phalangite's flank.

and one unit of cavalry behind all of this, on each flanks, and you get pretty solid flanking units

[Decimus Attius Arbiter]

In the beginning, you have no choice since you can't recruit thorakitai.


I don't think they're weak. They work for a low price. But they could be stronger. They don't kill fast enough. I don't like expecting high casualties from my units. Someone said they have 50 percent for every battle. I'm not happy with anything more than 10-15 percent on average in a clear victory. I like swords/axes/falx better. I guess that's why I'm playing Getai now.

[QuintusSertorius]

In the beginning, you have no choice since you can't recruit thorakitai.

I'm playing as Epeiros-Pergamon in Expansion regions with no Homeland available. I can't recruit thorakitai.

EDIT: Apparently I can, having checked the 1.1 RV rather than the 1.0 one which has been my mainstay.

[Timoleon]

having checked the 1.1 RV rather than the 1.0 one which has been my mainstay.

Is there a 1.1 RV? The download link points to the 1.0.

[Mediolanicus]

RV 1.1 comes along with your EB 1.1 installer.