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    Default Re: The Current Status of the Conflict in Iraq

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    You don't get it at all , it involves 3 countries that are still at war with Israel and a countryy which as part of the peace deal says that Israeli planes can bugger off if they think they can overfly at all .
    Are they planning a one way journey perhaps ?
    Given the spread and depth of Iranian fascilities even if they go round and come over the sea to avoid early warnings they are still going to have to take out the air defence network before they have a hope of getting to the nuke stuff . Israel simply hasn't got the capacity to do it .
    It isn't a matter of day 1 at all . And you can guarantee that on day one Isreali towns and villages will be recieving lots of presents of the non verbal kind from Irans little buddies .
    Israel simply cannot do it without US assistance and US assistance means saying goodbye to the entire middle east network apart from Isreal .
    No you dont get it because you havent provided a reason or rational as to what would prevent them. The 3 countries thus far havent stopped Israels occupation of palastine but they are going to stop airstrikes in Iran?

    Also, I dont suggest it wont involve an all out assault from Iran, however you neglected to address the historical precedent of israeli action on past nuclear sites on arab nations that they were at war with at the time.

    With that in mind, are you suggesting to me that Israel is going to sit and hope for the best on Iran? thus far I am not overwhelmed by your position on this crucial question, and you can laugh it up all you want it dosent change the historical fact that when Israel feels threatened they act. As I stated before unless a major diplomatic effort is made by obama Israel is forced to do something isnt it?

    Perhaps there is a sliver of rational that MAD principle might be the future between Iran and Israel but that removes Israels major ace. So by all means convince me tribesman that Israel wont act, I'll buy it if its convincing, I will even admit I was wrong. Thus far your argument is that nations at war will not violate others airspace, because more war?

    Oh the capacity thing I forgot, sure your right it wont be a one off hit and run that will eliminate all of the nuclear network, however 1 strike will certainly slow it down, but hey i will make another concession in the spirit of progress. Yep a sustained air campaign would require U.S. participation, but that dosent negate the ability of the israeli's from getting the first hit in. Not only that but my guess is that faced with a nuke armed Iran or a convential war they'll opt for the later.

    Edit Oh forgot, having a look at the middle east map I dont see many obstacles militarily to israel flying over head, didnt they buzz the president of syrias house a few months back, and destroy facialities within syria unopposed? Oh and then there is Iraqi air space, dont see much of a military issue there either, do you?

    I formally withdraw my prior concession :)
    Last edited by Odin; 06-24-2008 at 17:51. Reason: looked at the map, remembered current air sorties in syria
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