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    I use the optimized script and I dont have any problems... looks that you're bug hunted Quintus


    but I haven't reached your dates , (230's) I was about to do it , but I accidentally killed my campaign , so I'll have to start again and redo those 120 turns...


    Still I think there are several people ho have reached more than 230 whit the original script
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    My previous game worked fine down to 133BC even when I was mixing and matching my script between old and optimised.

    For some reason this game, with the new and improved optimised script seems to be picking up problems all over the place.
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    I think we can safely conclude that I have roughly the same problems as you do, on and off. Cloned FMs, banners disappearing, corrupted save games (I always keep mulptiple files, so that's never an issue for me), etc. Other people seem to have few or none of these problems.

    I suggest we keep on reporting about these issues, it can only shed more light on what's actually happening. I've been thinking FD might be a potential troublemaker, but I'd find that very strange. Or perhaps, the move_character command, which might cause troubles with EB's differing naming schemes etc.

    That was just brainstorming, BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordmaster View Post
    I think we can safely conclude that I have roughly the same problems as you do, on and off. Cloned FMs, banners disappearing, corrupted save games (I always keep mulptiple files, so that's never an issue for me), etc. Other people seem to have few or none of these problems.

    I suggest we keep on reporting about these issues, it can only shed more light on what's actually happening. I've been thinking FD might be a potential troublemaker, but I'd find that very strange. Or perhaps, the move_character command, which might cause troubles with EB's differing naming schemes etc.

    That was just brainstorming, BTW.
    I also find it strange that FD could be the source of the problem, given all it's doing is re-creating a disabled cheat. Or move_character as long as you're not putting stacks in places where they can't go, or on top of other stacks.

    It's only because of your advice about multiple saves that I'm not having to start from scratch; used to be a time when I'd only have a couple of saves and keep over-writing them every turn. Now at least they tend to be about 10 turns apart at most.

    I'm starting to think maybe I need to relinquish my desire to muck around with the AI factions as much as I do. And just accept that my game is alternate history and I can't try to make things turn out in a similar fashion to how they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius View Post
    I'm starting to think maybe I need to relinquish my desire to muck around with the AI factions as much as I do. And just accept that my game is alternate history and I can't try to make things turn out in a similar fashion to how they did.
    Go say that again when your Romani faction faces a Ptolemaic empire spanning from Baktria to Carthage even before you would start the Macedonian Wars . But you're right in that playing the game as it runs makes for lots of fun, too, as long as you keep it reasonable and think about how plausible certain moves are. The temptation to blitz everything within sight is at times quite big, I must admit.

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    I've managed to get down to 233BC from a previous save, but I'm now getting frequent AI-turn-CTDs.

    Got some captures of what I think the source of the problem is, the trigger being the death of the cloned Makedonian FM:

    On his death, there's a Pahlavan army-within-an-army in Pella:



    However the previously bugged stack on Cape Horn seems to be alright:



    But it was moving that lot back to Makedonia that seemed to cause the whole business with something funny happening in Pella and the banner disappearing.

    Was my game doomed from the moment that cloned Makedonian Faction Leader appeared?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordmaster View Post
    Go say that again when your Romani faction faces a Ptolemaic empire spanning from Baktria to Carthage even before you would start the Macedonian Wars . But you're right in that playing the game as it runs makes for lots of fun, too, as long as you keep it reasonable and think about how plausible certain moves are. The temptation to blitz everything within sight is at times quite big, I must admit.
    True, and for reasons I can't explain, I have this unreasoning hatred of Baktrian expansion.
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    Do I just need to abandon this game and start again? Or should I be looking for one of the mini-mods that removes client rulers (and possibly generals)?

    I'd be even more sad to lose generals than client rulers, since I make a lot of use of them. Client rulers are one of the neatest things in EB, but I could just about manage without them (as long as I could still have typeIV governments and the ability to recruit generals).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ||Lz3|| View Post
    Still I think there are several people ho have reached more than 230 whit the original script

    sorry I meant optimized script not the original hehehe mi bad...
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