CTD on loading issue

[bovi]

Quintus, could you for testing's sake try to not use client rulers or recruited generals at all? You seem to be a magnet for these kind of problems and I suspect it's due to your extensive use of non-family generals. Sorry to cramp your style, of course. But if it eliminates the problem, at least we'd know that it is this causing it.

[QuintusSertorius]

Quintus, could you for testing's sake try to not use client rulers or recruited generals at all? You seem to be a magnet for these kind of problems and I suspect it's due to your extensive use of non-family generals. Sorry to cramp your style, of course. But if it eliminates the problem, at least we'd know that it is this causing it.

Well in my new game I've cut out the client ruler script, and have only used a few non-FM generals (none of whom I've adopted - in fact I've never seen the option to adopt them), and I've had no problems at all.

I've got to wonder, do most people not use client rulers or recruitable generals?

[Papal Knight]

I use both, but sparingly. Say, in far off places like what are known today as Crete or Cyprus (raiding bases for an advanced Romani campaign), for example. I have not had the issues you have had (I have read all your AAR stuff over at tw-center).

I did have a similar, repeatable CTD with an older Romani FM in a southern Gallic city I owned (Tolouse? am on the work comp, and I forget). I crossed my fingers & waited for him to die. it worked, no more CTD. as such, I really don't know what the issue was, but it undoubtedly had someting to do with the FM..... was same as you though, a CTD every time you looked in the city, put a spy there, whatever.

(I don't do FD or any of the other stuff you do. )

[QuintusSertorius]

Thing is they've never been my own clones - always that of AI factions. First the Getai, then Makedonia.

[Skandinav]

I´ve just had three save games with far in between with persistent crashes similar to those described in the first post, all is fine when I save and log out but when I try to load it crashes shortly after the campaign music heralds the loading is done, never seen such before. No cloned client rulers anywhere though, but a lot of console fiddling done.


EDIT: Concerning the script optimization, I have played a romani campaign to 90BC a Swêboz campaign to 111BC and a Pahlava to 196BC without the "Client ruler potential fix", only the "Initial client ruler interlopers fix", and the "Client ruler script optimization fix" without having any problems besides the client rulers not getting their client ruler trait, never seen a single client ruler cloned or had crashes that were not related to rebellion, but my point is that aforementioned crashes, if they are connected to the client rulers, have appeared only after installing the mini mod pack a day ago which, as far as I know, contains the "Client ruler potential fix".