(1) Totally false and disingenuous.
(2) Genuine in emotion, but not spiritual.
(3) Spiritual.
(4) Could be any of the three depending on the person and the circumstances.
(1) Totally false and disingenuous.
(2) Genuine in emotion, but not spiritual.
(3) Spiritual.
(4) Could be any of the three depending on the person and the circumstances.
False and disingenuous - few people speak in tongues unless they actually believe they can speak in tongues AFAIK.
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Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
Speaking in Tongues is a gift God gave to the Apostles so they could spread the Gospel in the languages they had never learned, and be understood by the native speakers of those languages.
However, what is done today and called 'Speaking in Tongues' is not actually Speaking in Tongues at all. It is simply nonsense and perhaps borderline demonic.
Does ' speaking in tongues' mean?
Nihil nobis metuendum est, praeter metum ipsum. - Caesar
We have not to fear anything, except fear itself.
Ibant obscuri sola sub nocte per umbram
perque domos Ditis vacuas et inania regna:
quale per incertam lunam sub luce maligna
est iter in silvis, ubi caelum condidit umbra
Iuppiter, et rebus nox abstulit atra colorem. - Vergil
Navaros explained it quite well.
The Apostles were said to have been given a gift to speak (and more likely be heard) in all languages of the earth, so that when they preached, all races would understand their message at the same time.
This was clearly an advantage in the very mixed cultures of the Middle East at the time. It is of course, counted as a miracle of the Holy Spirit.
There are modern Christian sects that claim to have the same power, or individuals that enter a trance like state wherein they "speak in tongues".
To my knowledge, listening to them gives one the distinct impression that they are babbling uncontrollably and are not communicating in any language, let alone many distinct ones.
I suspect the experience is much along the same lines as trance states in many traditions, which are heightened emotional states that affect the individual and onlookers of the same mind.
"If there is a sin against life, it consists not so much in despairing as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this one."
Albert Camus "Noces"
So that's what Dubya has been doing all along.
I have long held that the answer was 1. Until I got to know some members of a Christian sect and discovered it was rather more 2. Which makes it even more.. how shall I put this?
I better not.![]()
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Damn, Navaros.
Anyhow, I voted 4, because, in all honesty, we can't know that it's all fake, and I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who feel that it is real. But on the other hand, you can't tell me that every Pentecostal nutjob really believes that he/she is speaking in tongues; there's gotta be at least a few* who are faking it.
*Read: at least half to two thirds. It's a fad at best, and a massive case of spiritual fraud at worst.
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It was divine inspirationNothing divine about Tribesman's YouTube video![]()
God can do whatever he'd like. Is it that hard to believe that he could give men knowledge?
I've never seen it. I've also never seen Julius Caesar dance a jig.
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