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Thread: US Supreme Court strikes down death penalty for child rapists
Redleg 02:40 07-01-2008
Originally Posted by Conradus:
Well I'm trying...
Keep trying....

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But that's accepting that civil liberties are universal and that gun ownership is one of those universal civil liberties. And considering that most civilized nations do not think of it as such, I'm hardly convinced it is one.
Good try but that does not address the absolute statement that the individual made. He stated all civil liberties, which normally means all, regardless of where he comes from.

Now if he had said any infringement on civil liberties, I would give him the benefit of doubt that his definition could very well be different then an American prespective.

However has stated he stated all infringements on civil liberties by governments. So I find the defense of his position very weak because of his absolute position.

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