[Epeiros/Pergamon AAR] Philetairos' Gift

[Europe]

Wye don’t you fight the Aedui in Galatia? I always thought the put up the best resistance, in my Romani campaign the attacked me with two ten star generals, an army of elites, gaesatae and those druids who raise moral. To this day it’s the only full stack vs. full stack battle I lost agents the AI.

[QuintusSertorius]

Wye don’t you fight the Aedui in Galatia? I always thought the put up the best resistance, in my Romani campaign the attacked me with two ten star generals, an army of elites, gaesatae and those druids who raise moral. To this day it’s the only full stack vs. full stack battle I lost agents the AI.

The Aedui are already weak enough in the game, and I don't want Galatia to be honest. They're more useful as a buffer zone between me and Pontos (and now Hayasdan) than they would be a small province with some not very good mines.

[Reverend Joe]

Well unfortunately the poorness of the AI is killing my interest in continuing this AAR. Becomes a bit of a mockery to report on the battles when I'm forever making up reasons as to why the AI is behaving stupidly, especially as to why the generals keep killing themselves.

Otherwise I might as well go back to summary-level reports on the battles making up a narrative of what happened in between start and finish.

Wow.... that sucks.

[||Lz3||]

have you tried sinhuet's AI mod?

[QuintusSertorius]

Wow.... that sucks.

I haven't given up yet, but it does make it harder to get the enthusiasm to play each time. I did play for a couple of hours yesterday, but nothing to really report yet.

have you tried sinhuet's AI mod?

That's my next one to try out, though what I'm reading about it in the mods section doesn't suggest it will necessarily fix the problem. It's less so an issue with the formations (which start out fine), and more with what the AI then does when the battle starts.

[QuintusSertorius]

I'm afraid the permanent CTD death-knell has come again. In spite of removing client rulers, I'm still getting an un-navigable CTD in the AI turn. Three campaigns with 1.1 ending in failure tells me my machine doesn't like it; I never had these issues with 1.0.

So I think it's time for a break from EB for a bit to gather my energies, then perhaps come back with a 1.0 AAR. I'm not done with Pergamon yet!

[Chaotix]

Wow, you've really got some bad luck with CTD's there. It's too bad, this was a good AAR.

On a side note: I've been thinking about how you play with the Romans, with all of the Force diplomacy to keep other factions to historical expansion, and EB2, once it's out, might be perfect for that. M2TW allows the ability to control multiple factions, which is usually used for multiplayer purposes, but I suppose you could try to control ALL the factions of EB2 directly in your ultimate historical campaign. That might give ya something to wait for....

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

What are the details of the bug? It might be fixable.

[QuintusSertorius]

What are the details of the bug? It might be fixable.

Thread is here.

[QuintusSertorius]

It seems the bug was indeed fix-able. It was caused by a rebellion in either Syrakousai or Arse on the Romani turn, but I sidestepped that and two turns later it's still functioning.

203BC:



Pictured is the siege of Antiocheia, first part of a deep raid which will end in Babylon, slashing and burning most of the cities on the way. I hope to sabotage the Seleukid economy that way, and make them actually accept peace.

[Tyrfingr]

My congratulations to you, for clearing the CTD out. I can't wait for you to get th AAR going again...

[General Appo]

WEEEEE!!! Great news QS.

[Hax]

Very promising. Good luck!

[QuintusSertorius]

The Punishment of Arche Seleukeia

Andromachos Lakmonios had been sent by the Basilieu to bring Pergamon's wrath on the Syrians. A new army was recruited, ships built to transport them, and additional money provided for the hiring of mercenaries along the way. Their mission was simple: cause as much harm as they could to the Seleukids right in their heartland.

Lakmonios began as soon as he landed on the Syrian coast, investing Antiocheia.

Antiocheia

The city's walls were too strong for Lakmonios to risk a direct assault so soon, so he settled down to starving the small garrison out. This provoked a response from a nearby Seleukid officer, who gathered what troops he could to relieve the city.



But not even the actions of the desparate garrison sallying forth could save them from the Pergamene's overwhelming numbers. Antiocheia was taken and looted.





Edessa

Marching on once his men had filled their pockets and replenished their supplies, Lakmonios heard reports from his spies that a large army was moving his way. While not discounting these rumours, he proceeded directly to Edessa, and began ravaging the countryside around it. When a response wasn't forthcoming, he laid siege to the city directly.



In the fighting both a Syrian worthy, and indeed their future Basilieu were killed.





In all the city was taken with few losses.

[QuintusSertorius]

Battle of Assyria, 202BC

After plundering Edessa, the army Lakmonios had been hearing about finally caught up to him. It was led by the Armenian turncoat Ara of Haykazuni, but whilst it outnumbered the Pergamenes, was weak in cavalry.



The two armies met on a level plain.



The Syrians had a strong centre, but the Pergamenes had a much broader frontage. Even before the lines engaged, Pergamene skirmishers inflicted losses on their Seleukid counterparts.



Early fighting in the centre.



Ara's view of the early battle.



Fighting was brisk in the centre.



Ara joined the fighting there in person.



The Pergamene calvary, led by Lakmonios in person, roamed around behind the Seleukid line, harrassing their skirmishers.



Lakmonios charged to the rear of those on the Pergamene left.



Away from the main fighting, Ara challenged the Pergamene light cavalry to combat.



Fighting was now localised in several smaller skirmishes.



Overwhelmed by the sheer number of light horse, Ara was slain.



Much of his army, besides the elite pikemen, fled.



But it was only a matter of time before even they were broken.



Editorial Note



I was a bit rusty, having had so long off, which is why my cavalry was as badly chewed-up as it was. I'm also using Sinhuet's formation mod, which has made things a little better. Note how the phalanxes almost supported each other this time, though they did rather foolishly concentrate all their troops in the centre, with nothing covering their wings. The general took a lot longer to try to kill himself, too.

Second Battle of Assyria

Later in the season, while advancing deeper into Seleukid territory, a smaller Syrian force attacked Lakmonios in his camp.



Some mistaken signals resulted in mistakes and the battle was nearly lost before Lakmonios pulled things around. The Syrians were driven off, but with serious Pergamene loss.



Editorial Note

I autocalced because I didn't want to risk getting a CTD having just fought a big battle, and it was late. Unfortunately that cost me almost half my army. No idea what they had that caused so much damage. Still I've got loads of money for mercenaries, so no big deal.

[Sdragon]

You can just hit esc and it brings up the main menu while on the 'two armies meet' screen, so you can actually save during the AI turn.
Also I've been reading your AAR in the shadows form some time. I've been loving it. Just wondering, where are all your experienced troops at?

[QuintusSertorius]

You can just hit esc and it brings up the main menu while on the 'two armies meet' screen, so you can actually save during the AI turn.
Also I've been reading your AAR in the shadows form some time. I've been loving it. Just wondering, where are all your experienced troops at?

I don't want to save during the AI turn, because then I'll get issues with the script not being activated if I reload. Time was really the main concern with auto-calcing that second battle, I had things to do.

I didn't use the experienced army, I left them defending Anatolia. I'm tempted to disband them and re-recruit more green ones (though everyone starts with two chevrons now). I also don't retrain, so they don't tend to get too experienced unless I autocalc a few battles.

[Son of Epirus]

Hi sorry to "invade" this message stream however as you are quite up on the Epeiros faction I just needed to know how to replenish or retrain elephants as my start off stack is getting quite low. They got a good hammering against some Spartan hoplites. cheers

[QuintusSertorius]

Hi sorry to "invade" this message stream however as you are quite up on the Epeiros faction I just needed to know how to replenish or retrain elephants as my start off stack is getting quite low. They got a good hammering against some Spartan hoplites. cheers

No idea, I'm afraid, I've never used elephants. I disbanded the ones I started with straight away.

[Son of Epirus]

On the elphants: Interesting - why?

Also I did almost the same as you at the start and bashed a few seiging Romans to get out of Tara or Tarentum? - demolishing all buildings as the revenue from them was -4502 and was hampering any chances of making cash. What a surprise to Sparta when a boat load of troops from South Italy appeared to back up the faction leader! Best move I made I conquered most Greek states with difficulty and just have Thermon and Athens to deal with. I now have mnies to buy my first unit after so long!

[QuintusSertorius]

They're expensive, I don't much like them, and historically Pergamon didn't use them. So I didn't feel any pain in immediately disbanding them, along with my ships and a lot of cavalry.

[juba1]

hi,

i would like to know how to get this gold colour for the ptolemaic faction and the blue color for epeiros ?

once in EB/Data/Desc_sm_factions I dont know which vanilla factions have been replace by ptolemaic and epeiros ?

to get the gold colour, I dont know what figures to choose ???? " red 210, green 210, blue 210 "

thanks for help

[MerlinusCDXX]

hi,

i would like to know how to get this gold colour for the ptolemaic faction and the blue color for epeiros ?

once in EB/Data/Desc_sm_factions I dont know which vanilla factions have been replace by ptolemaic and epeiros ?

to get the gold colour, I dont know what figures to choose ???? " red 210, green 210, blue 210 "

thanks for help

go to this site and pick the stripe of the color you want and enter those values.

[juba1]

thanks

now, how can i know which vanilla factions are ptolemaic and epiros ?

[Lysimachos]

thanks

now, how can i know which vanilla factions are ptolemaic and epiros ?

Ptolemies are numidia, Epeiros is thrace.