Surprisingly good units

**Mediolanicus** · 07-08-2008, 14:01

Good point.

What about morale? I find them a bit more prone to rout than my Peltastai.

**QuintusSertorius** · 07-08-2008, 14:15

Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

Good point.

What about morale? I find them a bit more prone to rout than my Peltastai.

According to the unit cards, they're the same on morale. Basically Uazali have less javelins (3 compared to Peltastai's 6), but higher attack (by 1 point) and defense (by 1 point). Otherwise they're broadly the same.

**Mediolanicus** · 07-08-2008, 18:34

How about this one?

I'm using them in my Romani campaign as medium assault infantry. However, due to their axes they are uncapable of holding the line. If I can use them to their full potential they can kill around 200 enemies while taking less than 50 casualties themselves.

Tekastos (Rhaetic Axemen)

**Olaf The Great** · 07-08-2008, 23:02

Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

How about this one?

I'm using them in my Romani campaign as medium assault infantry. However, due to their axes they are uncapable of holding the line. If I can use them to their full potential they can kill around 200 enemies while taking less than 50 casualties themselves.

Tekastos (Rhaetic Axemen)

The Alpine Iphrikates Hoplites have axes as their secondary weapon, so use them as line troops and Teskatos as flankers

They are awesome btw.

**Ibrahim** · 07-08-2008, 23:17

Iphicratean hopites are uderrated IMO; they are more flexible than a classical phalanx, they're more cohesive, and make for good melee fighters, should the phalanx break. all in all, excellent unit, yet rarely mentioned by many a player in greece.

also, camilan Hastati are underrated; true, morale, stats and otherwise are mediocre, but they make great frontline troops, tiring the enemy, so that their superiors can finish them off.

**Olaf The Great** · 07-09-2008, 00:40

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

Iphicratean hopites are uderrated IMO; they are more flexible than a classical phalanx, they're more cohesive, and make for good melee fighters, should the phalanx break. all in all, excellent unit, yet rarely mentioned by many a player in greece.

also, camilan Hastati are underrated; true, morale, stats and otherwise are mediocre, but they make great frontline troops, tiring the enemy, so that their superiors can finish them off.

Yeah I had a very good experience with a mercenary unit of Iphricatean Hoplites as Hayasdan, along with a unit of Thessalians. Made a very good minature version of Hammer and anvil that worked very well.

There are many varieties of them too...

Normals..
Mail armoured
Mail armoured elites(Ptolemies)
Indogreek..
Alpine...
Helvetii..
Getai Light
Getai Heavy :P

..Is that it?

**Zarax** · 07-09-2008, 10:27

Iphicrateans are good but imho I preferred them in 1.0 as they were a quite flexible phalanx (gotta love the getai and helvetii versions).

**Che Roriniho** · 07-09-2008, 23:32

Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

How about this one?

I'm using them in my Romani campaign as medium assault infantry. However, due to their axes they are uncapable of holding the line. If I can use them to their full potential they can kill around 200 enemies while taking less than 50 casualties themselves.

Tekastos (Rhaetic Axemen)

They are really very very good. to date the only unit that as been able to rout an Epirote Elite Phalanx. On their own. In a FRONTAL assault. (I HATE those frigging EEP's... Hate 'em)

**Tartaros** · 07-10-2008, 13:50

first in my current greekgame, i just want to test them how they fight without phalanx (many peopel think that there´re useless now), but i was really surprised how good they perform with the sword in hand to hand battle (the performance was even better than thorakitai or normal hoplitai). they kill most of the macedon elites very soon.
i do most of the hard jobs with them and they never break or let me down. they are very flexible (sword/spear) and grizzled.
with the sword they fight similar like heavy scutarii or marian legions, so that really surprised me.

**fenix3279** · 07-10-2008, 18:22

I've always had good luck with Massaliotai Hoplitai

Not once do I recall these guys routing despite taking heavy losses. They hold the line every time. Look pretty good too.

**kambiz** · 07-10-2008, 22:05

Both Tabargane Eranshahr

And Kofyaren-i Verkhana

really surprised me in my current Baktrian campaign. They are lightly armoured and thus are cheap ,but are tough fighters and very good flankers. I have destroyed many of Selukids Phalanx armies with purely iranian armies (many times outnumbered) and these guys always saved me

I suggest you to try them ,They won't disappoint you