Surprisingly bad units

[AlexanderSextus]

The Camillian Triarii ain't that good, I usually find them too expensive early on in the campaign and I much rather prefer the Camillian Principes, which got Pilums to throw before a charge, spears to skewer cavalry with and swords for infantry.

Are you kidding me???? These guys were the only ones that kept the Aedui from taking Bononia when i was transitioning to Polybian legions. They're the only Camillian unit (that i know of) that can stand up to the Gaesatae long enough for me to get skirmishers/cavalry behind them.

On that note, Now that i can't use them anymore, what Polybian Era Infantry can combat the Gaesatae? Are Polybian Triarii good enough or are the Polybian Principes better suited for the job?

[Olaf The Great]

Are you kidding me???? These guys were the only ones that kept the Aedui from taking Bononia when i was transitioning to Polybian legions. They're the only Camillian unit (that i know of) that can stand up to the Gaesatae long enough for me to get skirmishers/cavalry behind them.

On that note, Now that i can't use them anymore, what Polybian Era Infantry can combat the Gaesatae? Are Polybian Triarii good enough or are the Polybian Principes better suited for the job?

I'd say Extraordinarii

[teh1337tim]

I'd say Extraordinarii

id say triarii
pedits tire out too fast for my liking
hell one battle
i lost 3/4 of my hastati and principles to3 reformed pikeman,hyspistia, elite peltastai

they saved my ass taking out all of the peltast,reformed,hetairo, everything

:)

worse united ever...
id say the..

ah yes
who would love the german levy sperman
totally hate them
easy to tire
no armor
killed by every troops that has missles
1 unit rout, everybody routs

:S

[johnhughthom]

I would say pelt the hell out of the Gaesatae with whatever you have, then pin them down with Triarii and get your Principes to attack them from behind.

[Olaf The Great]

For some reason I have a bad experience with the WARGONEZ, they just seem to die like flies and are expensive as hell.

[Tellos Athenaios]

For some reason I have a bad experience with the WARGONEZ, they just seem to die like flies and are expensive as hell.

Reserve them for enemy bodyguards. Suddenly they're pretty badass. Missile fire is pain, though.

[Olaf The Great]

Oh and the Sacred band phalanx is pretty bad too, they're swords are awful compared to the Liby-Pheonician unit, and they have AP axes and the exact same stats.

[Cambyses]

Most of the bad units are the cheap and nasty ones that we expect to be. Like Greek archers or Celtic levies.

To my mind everything has its place if used well, but there are some troops that are suprisingly weak or inefficient in comparison to others around them. Top of that list for me is Iberian Medium Infantry as they are only marginally better than the Light Infantry for a lot bigger cost and are the same price as the Heavy Infantry which are stronger statswise.

Again, any type of artillery is rubbish value for money - and there are some pretty useless ship types out there as well, starting with the Trireme.