MoH Emergency Session Voting

**TinCow** · 07-07-2008, 17:28

Well, 2.1 and 2.3 have definitely failed to pass. 2.2 is currently passing by just the exact margin needed. If it remains that way, then the vote is pretty definitive. If it fails by only 1 vote, I will change my vote to yes simply to avoid any kind of revote.

Tristan: 2.2 passing doesn't mean you won't get it, it just means that Zim gets to decide. If you think he will reject it IC, perhaps it would be a good idea to do some IC negotiations. He allows the adoption, you do some kind of service for him. Seems fair and likely to succeed, especially since you'll probably have Zagreb back under your control by the end of this term.

**Ferret** · 07-07-2008, 17:29

Zim might even like it if you swore fealty to him in return for gaining a place on the tree

**Privateerkev** · 07-07-2008, 17:33

But then Hypatios won't be a Hypatos. I'm sorry but this quite simply can not be allowed to happen. You may not take away, what is potentially, years of Hypatos Hypatios jokes.

**_Tristan_** · 07-07-2008, 17:49

Zim has already stated that he sees no reason IC for adopting Methodios...

And seeing how Methodios previously left Asteri...

I see no IC reason nor IC means of redemption...

That sucks big time...

**Privateerkev** · 07-07-2008, 17:54

Doesn't mean there can't be some IC haggling.

You want on the tree. They want landed nobles in their feudal chain.

(yes I know you don't have land now but you will in the future.)

**_Tristan_** · 07-07-2008, 17:58

Frankly, it is not worth the bother...

Others be warned : better get on Zim/Igno's good side now because he has even more power now that the Basileos... (where the future of the Empire is concerned...)

That will leave a greatly disgruntled Methodios ( and a somewhat disgruntled Tristan...)

**Privateerkev** · 07-07-2008, 18:04

Would this be a good time to bring up regular adoptions and marriages?

Since it looks like the "adopter" gets to approve MotH's, how about letting him decide regular adoptions and marriages. Or are those two things still under the purview of the Megas?

As it stands, Zim will be able to deny Methodios's MotH, but if FD sees a marriage offer for Kosmas, he can accept it without talking to Zim before hand. He also would still be able to fill up all of the Caesar's "slots" with adoptees and deny him natural born kids.

I'm against CA 2.2 but we should at least be consistent...

**Zim** · 07-07-2008, 18:58

Hmmm... assuming for this post that 2.2 passes, why would Methodios be disgruntled? Is this event to be interpretted as him asking Kosmas to adopt him? If so why did he think someone he barely knows with whom his few interactions have been mildly negative would do so?

I'm not trying to be mean but if either of the latter two choices pass, we'll have to figure this out IC. I don't care much about Kosmas' children slots, and I'm not about to try to bribe someone into my House. If we can work out something even semi-plausable IC I have no problem with the adoption.

Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng

Frankly, it is not worth the bother...

Others be warned : better get on Zim/Igno's good side now because he has even more power now that the Basileos... (where the future of the Empire is concerned...)

That will leave a greatly disgruntled Methodios ( and a somewhat disgruntled Tristan...)

**TheFlax** · 07-07-2008, 19:01

Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng

Frankly, it is not worth the bother...

Others be warned : better get on Zim/Igno's good side now because he has even more power now that the Basileos... (where the future of the Empire is concerned...)

That will leave a greatly disgruntled Methodios ( and a somewhat disgruntled Tristan...)

Very soon there will be Deguerra (Ioannis Kalameteros) who can also take in MotH.