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    Default Vices and Virtues

    I've recently run into several vices and virtues I have never seen before, or have seen so rarely that I don't remember them in particular.

    Is there a full list of vices/virtues? Is there also a list of certain causes? (I ask this 2nd part, because I tried to bribe an army, met the desired amount, and somehow the general was insulted and killed the emissary. He had -20% bribe at first, and after that he had +50% bribe, as well. Odd, no?)

    Anyway, I'm just curious as to what all I've been missing, and all that. Any know of something like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrim View Post
    I've recently run into several vices and virtues I have never seen before, or have seen so rarely that I don't remember them in particular.

    Is there a full list of vices/virtues?
    I believe this may be what you're looking for.


    Quote Originally Posted by Matrim View Post
    Is there also a list of certain causes? (I ask this 2nd part, because I tried to bribe an army, met the desired amount, and somehow the general was insulted and killed the emissary. He had -20% bribe at first, and after that he had +50% bribe, as well. Odd, no?
    Not that I'm aware of offhand, no. Not all traits have a cause, though; a number of them (particularly traits that affect acumen and command, such as Drinker, Numerate, Odd Number of Toes, etc.) are acquired at random.
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    There is an old V&V guide in the Org download section. It does not list causes, however, because these are hardcoded (i.e. not within the accessible game files).
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    Default Re: Vices and Virtues

    Well thanks, to both of you. I've run into the majority at one time or another, except the extremes, or the later "tiers" if you can understand what I mean by that. Interesting, though. One I recently found was "Delegates Responsibility" or somesuch. Adds 2 command and 2 acumen, if I remember correctly. I had never seen that one before, which is why I asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrim View Post
    One I recently found was "Delegates Responsibility" or somesuch. Adds 2 command and 2 acumen, if I remember correctly. I had never seen that one before, which is why I asked.
    I've heard of that one, but I'm honestly not sure if I've come across it myself. It does seem to be among the more rare traits.
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    I've never seen such a boosting virtue, and it doesn't show in the list you've pointed to Martok.

    There's Educated and Eloquent, which gives something in that direction?

    And I couldn't see any file in the download section, I'm a little confused

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    That one only shows up on heroes.
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