Split in Church of England

[Rhyfelwyr]

I don't like the idea of praying through Saints. You do not have to pray to someone to put in a good word to God for you.

And becoming a Saint does not give them an advantage in prayer over anything else. If you pray properly, you should believe 100% that your prayer will be answered, and so therefore people should not have to pray through saints.

If you feel a Saint may pray better than yourself (in having more faith)... I am not sure on this. If God would not hear you, then the Saint would probably not either. There is certainly no reference in the Bible to this happening.

It may be an idea, I suppose. As long as it remains a case of praying through the Saints, rather than to them directly.

[ICantSpellDawg]

I don't like the idea of praying through Saints. You do not have to pray to someone to put in a good word to God for you.

And becoming a Saint does not give them an advantage in prayer over anything else. If you pray properly, you should believe 100% that your prayer will be answered, and so therefore people should not have to pray through saints.

If you feel a Saint may pray better than yourself (in having more faith)... I am not sure on this. If God would not hear you, then the Saint would probably not either. There is certainly no reference in the Bible to this happening.

It may be an idea, I suppose. As long as it remains a case of praying through the Saints, rather than to them directly.

Praying individually and in community is important. I'm not sure why anyone should be left out of it, living or passed, particularly if they might have insight into your particular dilemna.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I don't like the idea of praying through Saints. You do not have to pray to someone to put in a good word to God for you.

And becoming a Saint does not give them an advantage in prayer over anything else. If you pray properly, you should believe 100% that your prayer will be answered, and so therefore people should not have to pray through saints.

If you feel a Saint may pray better than yourself (in having more faith)... I am not sure on this. If God would not hear you, then the Saint would probably not either. There is certainly no reference in the Bible to this happening.

It may be an idea, I suppose. As long as it remains a case of praying through the Saints, rather than to them directly.

Gah! For a thousand years Scotland has been a country faithful to God and the Mother Curch. And now you nefarious blasphemists scoff at the plight of your martyrs and snub at the Mother of God! Saint Andrew turns in his grave at your blithe heresy!

Repent, sinner, repent! A thousand Hail Mary's to cleanse your your soul!

As you are reading this, I am writing a letter of complaint to the BBC, demanding all their presenters wear ostentatious crosses from now on. Europe shall be won back for its native civilisation!

[Rhyfelwyr]

Scotland is a Calvinist country and always will be! And down with the nationalists who look back to the days of Alba and see Catholicism as the religion of the nation. Rome said you were heretics!

John Knox will be spinning in his grave...

[Reverend Joe]

And thus we see the problem of organized religion. No figuring everything out for yourself... it ALWAYS has to be about everybody else.

[Cronos Impera]

Scotland is a Calvinist country and always will be! And down with the nationalists who look back to the days of Alba and see Catholicism as the religion of the nation. Rome said you were heretics!

John Knox will be spinning in his grave...

Come on, Calvin was a Puritan bastard and all other Christianity knows it.
If you can accept the fact that sex outside marrriage, drinking and all other small misdemeanours ware punishable by death under Calvinist jurisdiction than you can agree that Henry VIII was a visionary and a sensible man with a Christian vision.

[Rhyfelwyr]

As Calvin would say - "I hope tiny chickens dig out your eyes a thousand times!"