Scripts/events

**lobf** · 07-11-2008, 00:52

Originally Posted by MerlinusCDXX

Re: section H

Swordmaster is correct. The devastation script gives cash for "foraging" an enemy tile. This is from the "forager" trait that Sweboz and Saka Rauka generals can get (Sauromatae may also get this, I'm not quite sure about them though).

Why do Sweboz and Saka generals get this trait and not Romans or Gauls for instance?

**konny** · 07-11-2008, 11:45

Because Romans usually did not go out in small warparties to raid neighbouring villages. They came in full armies to raid and submit the entire land.

**lobf** · 07-11-2008, 19:37

But the trait applies if they have a big army too. And the early Germans were the only people who went out in small raiding parties?

**konny** · 07-12-2008, 16:26

Using this with large armies doesn't make sense because you might as well take the settlement and make much more booty.

**Hax** · 07-12-2008, 17:38

Also, I'm pretty sure the Anabasis still works.

**lobf** · 07-12-2008, 18:53

Originally Posted by konny

Using this with large armies doesn't make sense because you might as well take the settlement and make much more booty.

I don't understand. You don't suffer knocks against morale for leaving your province, no matter how big your army is. Yes, if you are only conquering the provinces right next to you and do so within a season every time, then it makes no difference. But that rarely happens in my games.

Why not giving the trait to the Parthians or Saka? Don't they have some kind of history of small scale raids between settlements? Or hunting as they travel by horseback?

**General Appo** · 07-13-2008, 16:27

Umm... the Saka does have it.

**Ludens** · 07-13-2008, 17:41

I think it's because these represent the nomadic factions. Nomads are capable of foraging for themselves: they pretty much do it for a living. They didn't bother with a supply train. To a lesser extent, this also applies to the Germans (no large settled communities, majority of freemen expected to produce their own food, no organized logistical effort to speak off). The Parthians on the other hand were in the process of settling down, in other words losing the skill to forage for an entire army. Off course, this is not a perfect representation (early on the Parthians would still be very nomadic, lateron the Saka would settle as well), but the scripting engine is not flexible enough to represent that.

**lobf** · 07-13-2008, 18:38

Originally Posted by General Appo

Umm... the Saka does have it.

Oops. I thought someone said it wsa a Saba/Sweboz thing. My bad.

Originally Posted by Ludens

I think it's because these represent the nomadic factions. Nomads are capable of foraging for themselves: they pretty much do it for a living. They didn't bother with a supply train. To a lesser extent, this also applies to the Germans (no large settled communities, majority of freemen expected to produce their own food, no organized logistical effort to speak off). The Parthians on the other hand were in the process of settling down, in other words losing the skill to forage for an entire army. Off course, this is not a perfect representation (early on the Parthians would still be very nomadic, lateron the Saka would settle as well), but the scripting engine is not flexible enough to represent that.

I guess I don't see what the size of a culture's settled communities has to do with how it supplies itself in the field. In fact it seems like the more coordination and logistical planning is possible, the better you should forage. Didn't Roman armies forage? What makes you believe that German armies at the time did it better?