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    Default The Parthian Empire

    In my Romani campaign the Pahlava are doing very well. With a little help from the gods, in the form of FD, they survived the onslaught of the Selucids and so avoided extinction early in the game. i even borrowed money from the Saba and gave them to the Pahlava. The Saba are being reworded for their help, because the hated Poeni threated me with attack, and in 214 BC they besieged Messana. So the provinces in North Africa are being passed over to them, I am going to keep Adrumentum, Ippone and Siga, and confine the Carthaginians to Attika and Carthage itself.

    But then the Pahlava took the initiative and begin to conquer the territories of the Selucids, which too where given a helping hand against the Ptolemies. But the Selucids are anable to counter attack as their eternal Syrian wars go on and on. So slowly but unstoppable the Pahalva are grinding the empire bit by bit. I plan to change their name if they do create a huge empire and conquer both Babylon and Selucia.

    So the reason for this long post is that I want to ask what the Pahlava called their empire or with what title can I change Pahlava in my Campaign ?. Thanks

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    Default Re: The Parthian Empire

    I guess you could call them the "Parthaya or Parthava". TPC might know more about this, though.
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    Default Re: The Parthian Empire

    Once you have established the new Persianate dynasty, you may call them Arshkânîg/Arshkanig (Which means "Arsacids").


    "Fortunate is every man who in purity and truth recognizes valiance and prevents it from becoming bravado" - Âriôbarzanes of the Sûrên-Pahlavân

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    Default Re: The Parthian Empire

    Apart from that, I do believe Parthava only refers to the Satrapy of Parthia. Arshkânîg would be better.
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    Default Re: The Parthian Empire

    The faction name is beyond my capacity to change; It should in fact be "Âpârnîg" or "Pârnîg". Back in 272 BCE there was no such thing as an Arsacid dynasty; It had to first be established by the one Arsaces who toppled Andragoras/Pherecles and dubbed himself Arsaces I. However it was the Arsacids who gave rise to the legend of the "champion horse-men", or "Pahlavân"; Their succession in Parthia proper, or Parthava, caused a transition in the nomenclature of the area. Parthava became Pahlava. It is the idea that counts.

    Yeah, migraine-inducing when you give a serious moment of thought. Today's terminology is fucked up thanks to a bunch of senile folks who want everything to be simplified for them (When it usually needs a correct abstraction).


    "Fortunate is every man who in purity and truth recognizes valiance and prevents it from becoming bravado" - Âriôbarzanes of the Sûrên-Pahlavân

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    Default Re: The Parthian Empire

    Thanks for your reply guys and thanks always goes to TPC for his detailed history of ancient Iran. In fact as I have a number of spies in the area, I noticed that many FM of the Pahlava have the name Arshkânîg/Arshkanig, so that will be the faction name once they establish an empire.

    Cheers.


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    Pahlava is one of my favourite factions...when I re-install EB (cause my computer is in its deathbed now) I will definetely play them again.

    Too bad we have so little info on them, I have been looking the net for weeks in search of some good site or pdf

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