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    There is no explicit rule against it, but I asked Sigurd first how he wanted to handle it.

    I dont think revealing to dead people that are without a doubt confirmed innocent is in the spirit of the game though.

    I think only alive people, I have revealed, and urge others to do so in private to someone they know is innocent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    I ask people to reveal to me, as I know that a champion was protected by Thor last night, and I would like to put Thor in contact with the Champion and his Lord.
    I see absolutely no reason why we should all send our role PM's to you.

    All you have proven is that Thor protected you. Thor can protect anyone.

    I'm sorry but your reveal has proven nothing yet in my opinion.


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    Just so people are aware, I'm still around, I just had a horrible headache yesterday. I'll put some of my analysis up later.
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    Round 2 completion.


    The law speaker was all but run down by the representatives from the Kingdoms. “We need more time please. We can’t decide who should be the one paying for the life of Caius”. The law speaker looked at them. Searching their faces he made up his mind. “We need to conclude this today before the sun sets. Give me your current tally”. The man called Craterus reluctantly gave the law speaker the list of candidates. The law speaker took a quick look at it and said: “This is the man most of you voted for?” The men nodded a little uncertain. “Right, let us proceed. Bring this man to the Thing.
    The retinues of the kingdoms were waiting at the Thing centre with a man in chains.
    The law speaker walked right up to him and had a good look at his eyes. “Do you have anything to say?”

    The man stood straight and claimed: “I am the Lord of York, you should not kill me”.

    The men in the gathering all laughed and one said: “And I am the pope in Rome.” A roar of laughter erupted and it took a while before someone was able to be heard over the laughter. The law speaker shouted: “WE NEED A VOLUNTEER!!”
    Several hands and shouts of “Here” were heard. The law speaker picked the closest one.
    “You, come here. You know the drill?” The man nodded and went to Tratorix and whispered:”Go well, let thy blood atone for sins committed here at the Thing. Let Odin receive you to his table”. The man drew his dagger and sliced open Tratorix’ throat. Tratorix dropped to his knees and felt the darkness enveloping him. He slumped to the ground, burying his face in the mud. Soon the sounds of cheering men became silence .

    A jolt went through him and he was no longer chained. Long and sweet smelling hair was tickling his face. What was this? Could it be? “Greetings your grace, thy table awaits yonder hills. Let’s make haste”. Tratorix grabbed the woman’s waist and felt all tingly inside.


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    You may commence the challenges for next round's Holmgang.
    Remember the six first challenges will be the candidates for the actual duel.

    Tally:

    Tratorix: 6 (Disco, Gaius, GH, Kukrikhaan, Seamus, w&f)

    Crazed Rabbit 4: (FH, TinCow, Tratorix, Warmaster H)
    Privateerkev: 3 (Ichigo, Motep, shlin28)
    Motep : 2 (Andres, PK)
    scottishranger : 2 (Eliit, Rythmic)

    Gaius S C : 1
    (Husar)
    GH : 1 (Kage)
    Disco : 1 (Omanes)
    Kukrikhan : 1 (pever)
    TinCow : 1 (El D)
    Kagemusha : 1 (Prole)
    Abstained : 2 (Craterus, glyphz)
    Did not vote : 7 (CR, Fenring, LG, Quintus, Sarathos, scottishr, TevashSzat)


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    Killed: (2)

    Twilightblade (R1)

    Caius (R2)

    Killed by Holmgang: (1)

    makaikhaan (R1)

    Lynched: (2)

    CountArach (R1)

    Tratorix (R2)

    Living: (31)


    Andres
    Craterus
    Crazed Rabbit
    discovery1
    El Diablo
    Eliit Tuhkur
    FactionHeir
    Fenring
    Gaius Scribonius Curio
    GeneralHankerchief
    glyphz
    Husar
    Ichigo
    Kagemusha
    Kukrikhan
    LittleGrizzly
    Motep
    Omanes Alexandrapolites
    pevergreen
    Privateerkev
    Proletariat
    Quintus.J.Cicero
    Rythmic
    Sarathos
    scottishranger
    Seamus Fermanagh
    shlin28
    TevashSzat
    TinCow
    Warmaster Horus
    woad&fangs


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    Challenges so far

    1. GeneralHankerchief vs. FactionHeir
    2. Motep vs. GeneralHankerchief
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane View Post

    A jolt went through him and he was no longer chained. Long and sweet smelling hair was tickling his face. What was this? Could it be? “Greetings your grace, thy table awaits yonder hills. Let’s make haste”. Tratorix grabbed the woman’s waist and felt all tingly inside.
    A jolt went through him and he was no longer chained. Long and sweet smelling hair was tickling his face. What was this? Could it be? “Greetings your grace, thy table awaits yonder hills. Let’s make haste”. Tratorix grabbed the woman’s waist and felt all tingly inside.
    [FONT=Verdana]

    Is it safe to assume now that Tratorix was not a Jotun, w/c would mean his RolePm was genuine? No clue what 'felt all tingly inside' could mean? Anyone?
    edit: nevermind, he probably just reacted to her being cold
    There were less people who voted, but no doubt this round was a lot more intense. Too bad there's no overtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane View Post
    Challenges so far

    1. GeneralHankerchief vs. FactionHeir
    2. Motep vs. GeneralHankerchief
    And let's keep it that way.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
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    So, uh why does everyone want you dead GH?
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    That is a very good question, Ichigo. Apparently because disagreement over who is supposedly guilty is now enough to warrant a ridiculously stupid bandwagon. I'll take it in stride though, as long as I meet my death via Holmgang.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    So what are and how do you use the runes? I think I might have one with my pm and what it is/does is a complete mystery.
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    I actually thought it was a disagreement over fake PMs, with you implying that Motep was legit, and Tratorix not.

    Edit: and especially giving a ridiculous explanation for Motep's innocence. Ridiculous in the eyes of many, I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    That is a very good question, Ichigo. Apparently because disagreement over who is supposedly guilty is now enough to warrant a ridiculously stupid bandwagon. I'll take it in stride though, as long as I meet my death via Holmgang.
    Ridiculous...
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    Obviously in hindsight I was wrong about Tratorix but that just reinforces my point regarding Motep's innocence.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
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    How? Tratorix appears innocent, and during that discussion it seemed there was one innocent, the other not.

    The only argument that stands for me about Motep is the Verdana one. And even so, I doubt it a bit.

    Anyway, see you in about 10 hours, gents. It's 3 in the morning here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Obviously in hindsight I was wrong about Tratorix but that just reinforces my point regarding Motep's innocence.
    How?

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    Because now one of my pathetic defenses for Motep is replaced by a stronger one - the PMs are identical because Sigurd sent them both.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Because now one of my pathetic defenses for Motep is replaced by a stronger one - the PMs are identical because Sigurd sent them both.
    Unless he just, you know, copied mine.

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    So the Verdana thing is just going to be ignored then? Excellent.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Or possibly since you have the same role, you'll have basically the same role PM.
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    I think they're both Lords and I'd hope Motep gets some protection this night phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    So the Verdana thing is just going to be ignored then? Excellent.
    Maybe he is telling the truth. Maybe i'm just a bit incensed that very few people seem to believe my pm is genuine while so many seem to be willing to believe Motep because of a fragment of text related to the font of the message. I'm not 100% sure that he's guilty, but too many things don't add up for me.

    So, expect me keep bugging everyone about this until the game is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tratorix View Post
    Maybe he is telling the truth. Maybe i'm just a bit incensed that very few people seem to believe my pm is genuine while so many seem to be willing to believe Motep because of a fragment of text related to the font of the message. I'm not 100% sure that he's guilty, but too many things don't add up for me.

    So, expect me keep bugging everyone about this until the game is over.
    I think the lynch write-up pretty much proves you are who you say you are. I don't think there will be anyone who denies that now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tratorix View Post
    Maybe he is telling the truth. Maybe i'm just a bit incensed that very few people seem to believe my pm is genuine while so many seem to be willing to believe Motep because of a fragment of text related to the font of the message. I'm not 100% sure that he's guilty, but too many things don't add up for me.

    So, expect me keep bugging everyone about this until the game is over.


    On a more serious note, I never said you were guilty, and why would I copy your pm when I have a perfectly good one in my pm box, one that is in actuality legit. Besides, you are living it up in the afterlife. getting all tingly, it seems.

    One more thing, Im too pretty to die.
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    *A steady gaze at Factionheir, third bandwagoning me*

    How quick everyone was to believe two people who claimed to be kings of men. No discerning skepticism, just, it seems, blind acceptance.

    There is evil in our midst and we must tear it out. It seems foolish that we lynch the one who claimed to be a lord second, and said mainly the same as the first, if we were to lynch one.

    We should take a closer look at those who were urging us to go after motep and tratorix, as they seem to be very wrong.

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    To everyone who is still doubting Tratorix, keep this in mind:

    From TB's death writeup:

    The men of Jorvik were in full panoply when they found one of their warriors with an eternal smile frozen on his face, lying on the ground.
    Now, look at Tratorix's role PM:

    Eirik Bloodaxe, King of Jorvik (York).

    You are the ruler of Jorvik, a carved out kingdom north in England. You are Norwegian by birth and a former Varangian guard. Trained and schooled in the skills of war makes you a formidable foe in Holmgang.

    You have been summoned to this ting by the rulers of the Norse world to settle a dispute between Harald Bluetooth of Denmark and Haakon Jarl of Norway. You are here to give evidence to the dishonorable union of interests between Denmark and Jomsborg. But you still have a strong feeling about who should rule Norway. It should have been you and not that brat Haakon.

    Your survival is important. The Jotun is out to get you and your retinue. The Jotun will win if they kill you and the other Lords.

    You have a champion in your retinue. This is Ragnar the Anglo-Saxon, one of your most trusted men.
    If you are challenged to a Holmgang he can take your place. If the Holmgang you have been challenged to is the one which will be fought I will send you a pm with the question of you wanting a champion in your place. Remember, the Jotun will be looking for you and will discover that someone took your place.

    Your champion is: Twilightblade

    Holmgang ability: = 7
    Now, look at TB's death writeup:

    Suddenly he felt the ground jolting below him and he opened his eyes. He was no longer sleeping on the ground. The ground rushed below him and his face was full of sweet smelling golden hair. He looked up and into the back of a young and apparently beautiful woman. “Ah there you are handsome.” She turned and he looked right into a pair of the most beautiful blue eyes he had ever seen. “I am taking you home, handsome. Please hold me, I am rather cold”. Twilightblade grabbed the lithe body in front of him and wished this ride would never end.
    TB was from Jorvik and went to Valhalla. He was a warrior. Unless Tratorix carefully researched the writeups, and used TB's death to create an alibi, he is telling the truth. Keep in mind that if Tratorix is making this up, the real Jorvik people will call him out. Not to mention TB.

    To me, this is settled. I am convinced Tratorix is who he says he is.

    *edit*

    Also, look at Tratorix's death writeup:

    A jolt went through him and he was no longer chained. Long and sweet smelling hair was tickling his face. What was this? Could it be? “Greetings your grace, thy table awaits yonder hills. Let’s make haste”. Tratorix grabbed the woman’s waist and felt all tingly inside.
    He went to Valhalla as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    We should take a closer look at those who were urging us to go after motep and tratorix, as they seem to be very wrong.
    Hear, hear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Motep View Post


    On a more serious note, I never said you were guilty, and why would I copy your pm when I have a perfectly good one in my pm box, one that is in actuality legit. Besides, you are living it up in the afterlife. getting all tingly, it seems.

    One more thing, Im too pretty to die.
    Are you sure you're not Jotun? Cause, it would make me feel a whole lot better about getting lynched if I took a Jotun down with me instead of a fellow lord. But, your probably innocent, not because of any piece of evidence, but because the town seems to be just stumbling from one run of bad luck to another this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    We should take a closer look at those who were urging us to go after motep and tratorix, as they seem to be very wrong.
    I would be happy to answer any questions anyone has on this matter. I was the first to put the spotlight on those two. At the time, it seemed like the right thing to do. It obviously wasn't but hindsight is 20/20.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tratorix View Post
    Are you sure you're not Jotun? Cause, it would make me feel a whole lot better about getting lynched if I took a Jotun down with me instead of a fellow lord. But, your probably innocent, not because of any piece of evidence, but because the town seems to be just stumbling from one run of bad luck to another this game.
    I am pretty sure that I am not Jotun, not that you would take my word for it. And yes...very bad luck. Or is it luck?
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    By the gods, I leave for a few hours, and come back to a right mess! No doubt there'll
    be some very happy Jotun sitting back in the darkness having a good old giggle.

    I personally will take Motep's claim with a pinch of salt. No Norse at the top? Unlikely, but
    possible. Also his score seems a little high. Also possible though, as Sigurd could have (and
    probably did) adjusted the system he used last time.
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    Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
    And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
    But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra

    Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts

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