Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
PK is right about the timing issue on the Holmgang vote. There is no way the town would be organized well enough to ensure that such a vote gets pulled off properly. It essentially would mean that the entire debate on who should challenge who should be conducted within the first 12 hours of the evening. I seriously doubt whether enough people will be online often enough to make that a productive or accurate vote. It would be open to serious tampering by the Jotun.

If this is really going to be done, the best option is simply to vote on it alongside the lynch vote. Simply have every person write three things during the 'vote' phase:
Vote: X
Suspect: Y
Suspect: Z

That way when the voting is done, we will have the vote for Holmgang completed and ready to issue. The town can then tell those two people that we expect them to challenge one another. If they do not challenge each other, we can lynch one of them. We can also lynch someone who challenges when they have not been given permission to do so.

There is, however, a bit of a wrench in this: enforcement. Such a system will only work if people really do believe that they have to obey it or be lynched. The first time someone violates such a self-imposed rule and gets away with it, the entire system will collapse. So, unless we're seriously committed to lynching on the basis of complaince with a vote for Holmgang, then we shouldn't bother with this. I'm undecided at the moment on whether lynching on this basis alone is valuable to us.
I'm also worried that we'll be using up our lynch chances with challenge violations. Every time you lynch someone for violating this new rule we are about to make up, then you are not lynching people for meatballing, abstaining, lurking, acting different, being defensive, ect... We'd have to stop enforcing our new rule for a turn just do lynch for these normal tried and tested mafia game reasons. And once we stop enforcing it, it would be hard to take it back up.

I mean, what would have precedence? Say we have a challenge violation but someone is acting funny. Do we drop the lynch for the challenge violator and go after the person who is acting funny? If we do that, then our enforcement of the challenge rule will fail.