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    Default weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    plans were tentatively made for testing the TMS variant of samwars this coming weekend.

    TMS has already uploaded a little patch that adds MTW units in as "mongols".
    That is a usefull starting point for testing,
    though having played a few customs i think the steppe cav (light mongol anti-cav unit) are muchly overpowered

    but to gather other peoples opinions feedback is needed

    SO what is happening please


    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoMage of Shadows View Post
    install beta 8, unzip this little file, drop the contents into the main game folder,
    in custom battle or mp select 2008 Samurai Warlords
    enjoy
    2008_SAMWARS_MONGOLS.zip

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by R'as
    P.S.: I'll make a patch with Techo_Mage's changes and then we can test those changes online and see if we got rid of the desync issue once and for all. It will be ready before next weekend and I'll make time to join you online for test games.
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    Is this patch available yet? Or do we download Tech_Mage's and do online tests?
    Last edited by Jochi Khan; 07-10-2008 at 23:15.
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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Hi guys,

    here's the link for the Samurai Warlords patch 8.1. (222k)
    I'll post this in several threads to reach everybody.
    Features:
    • includes the fix by Techno_Mage_of_Shadows.
    • deletes all vanilla eras for easier access
    • features a new Main Menu title, so that people can check if the patch is properly installed.
    • the unit prod is still called "MP_11_unit_prod", the old will be overwritten by the patch, the stats haven't changed




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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Was this patch 8.1 tested?
    I have made a new install with this one and......where are the Mongols??

    I see the beta 8 and 8.1 at the top of the Main Menu but the faction screen does not show Mongols.

    Edit: My error, my apologies. I was reading this wrong. Now I understand this patch is for testing the 'desync' problem and nothing to do with the mongol faction.

    When I had used Techno_Mage's install I had mongol faction showing. (I played a custom battle last night)

    Perhaps I had better try to re install TM's

    Edit:
    I have installed TM's over the new install and I now have the Mongol faction available.
    The Select Era screen shows...
    Samurai Warlords Beta 8
    Samurai Wars
    2008 Samurai Warlords.
    Last edited by Jochi Khan; 07-11-2008 at 19:35. Reason: Checking install
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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    So is this being tested on the weekend? I am busy all day on Saturday but I will make the effort to join in. I assume the main aim is to find out if desync is cured? A few 4v4 battles would be ideal.

    I will install mtw/vi and the relevant patches/mod and join the lobby on both days

    ....Orda

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    i'm sure the missing mongols was not intentional,

    so i would recommend a fresh install of medieval,

    then install R'as beta 8 release

    then the Samurai Warlords patch 8.1

    then add Technomage's mongol test patch 2008 Samwars Mongols


    now the big question, R'as and I are in adjacent timezones,
    the rest of you are on the "other" side of the planet,
    (it's all right, we forgive you, you were born that way)
    what time GMT do we want to play???
    Last edited by barocca; 07-11-2008 at 20:36.
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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Jochi Khan View Post
    Edit:
    I have installed TM's over the new install and I now have the Mongol faction available.
    The Select Era screen shows...
    Samurai Warlords Beta 8
    Samurai Wars
    2008 Samurai Warlords.
    Quote Originally Posted by barocca View Post
    so i would recommend a fresh install of medieval,
    then install R'as beta 8 release

    then the Samurai Warlords patch 8.1

    then add Technomage's mongol test patch 2008 Samwars Mongols
    As you can see from my edited post, I have already done that.

    UK time (BST) GMT+1. I can be online anytime from about 20.00 hours.
    08.00hrs and 10.00hrs Sunday morning for you and R'as I think??
    Last edited by Jochi Khan; 07-11-2008 at 23:07.
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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Jochi Khan View Post
    ...UK time (BST) GMT+1. I can be online anytime from about 20.00 hours.
    08.00hrs and 10.00hrs Sunday morning for you and R'as I think??
    i am gmt+10, so thats 5am AEST for me - very do-able...
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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    barocca...
    Have you tried logging on to the foyer?

    I can only get as far as the ....Connecting.... and my pc freezes resulting in a reboot.

    My other installs work ok.
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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    TECHNOMAGE PATCH/FIX CONNECTS

    so try this without 8.1 and see if you can connect

    Quote Originally Posted by barocca View Post
    so i would recommend a fresh install of medieval,

    then install R'as beta 8 release

    Then the Samurai Warlords patch 8.1

    then add Technomage's mongol test patch 2008 Samwars Mongols


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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    All installed and working. See you online

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    I don't have any problems logging on with 8.1 patch.

    Can somebody post the GMT meeting time ?
    Is it 18:00 GMT?
    Back in Germany (GMT+2) it was always 20:00 for me, that would be 6:00 in the morning in NZ.
    Is that correct?

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    NZ is 11 hours ahead of Germany but with summer time here it should be only 10 hour difference so it should be 0600 hours for you yes.


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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by CBR View Post
    ..so it should be 0600 hours for you yes.


    CBR
    OMG have to hurry...
    Will most probably not be punctual but will come in any case.

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    must have been a server crash earlier today causing the crashes

    however mongols ARE missing from 8.1

    to install 8.1 AND mongols follow these instructions

    it MUST be a fresh install of medieval,

    then in this exact order

    1.
    install R'as beta 8 release

    2.
    install Samurai Warlords patch 8.1

    3.
    then add Technomage's mongol test patch 2008 Samwars Mongols

    we can test both at the same time
    (and i still think steppe cav (mogol spear cav) are overpowered.

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    All sorted now.

    I used another install of Samurai Warlords that I had on my pc and installed 8.1 and TMS patches to it.

    I'll be there about 20.00 hours (GMT+1)
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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Thus far, I have run some custom battles and the game is not that bad providing Mongol player buys a 16 unit balanced army. Mongol units still have the VI costs and are grossly underpriced compared with Japanese... MHC 535koku, MHA 375koku, Steppe cav 150koku.
    With MI Mongol/Korean sprites added, it will look very nice. Beta 8 Sengoku era is still a seperate option, so it seems two eras already exist, all it needs now is the 'new' unit sprites and adjustments to unit cost and stats.
    Until the adjustments are made, I'd propose that Mongol players just buy 16 units with no upgrades and not go over the top with cav

    .......Orda
    Last edited by Orda Khan; 07-12-2008 at 11:52.

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Orda Khan View Post
    [..]Beta 8 Sengoku era is still a seperate option, so it seems two eras already exist, [..]
    .......Orda
    One era is SP and one is MP in beta_8.
    "Samurai Wars MP" is for Multiplayer.
    We did that because SP units are priced differently.

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Yes R'as, I understand that. I mean you have a choice for MP.. SamuraiWars MP and TMS 2008 option as well which includes Mongols

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    My Multiplayer Menu shows:

    Samurai Wars MP
    2008 Samurai Warlords
    Samurai Warlords Beta_8

    The 2008 has the Mongols and everything else (all looks great btw ).

    What is the difference between the other two?
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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Downloading/Intstalling Now, I'll re-edit post about my thoughts later today. Hope it works out :-)

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomisama View Post
    My Multiplayer Menu shows:

    Samurai Wars MP
    2008 Samurai Warlords
    Samurai Warlords Beta_8

    The 2008 has the Mongols and everything else (all looks great btw ).

    What is the difference between the other two?
    2008 is the TMS era with Mongols.
    The other two are SP and MP from beta_8 as before.

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    loading a different box - the nvidia8400 wont work online, works fine customs, and lan, but not online....

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    I Didn't Notice Any Problems outside of me Lagging like Hell in the 3v3. What is causing this? I did Beta 7 Fine, I did Beta 8 fine up untill Late June (2007), when I was lagging like crazy, and same in Beta 5 and now again in Beta 8. I'm upgrading to 1, mabye 2 Gig of RAM in the next few weeks, but I doubt that is the problems if I could do Beta 7 for Months without a problem with lag. Anyone can offer suggestions?

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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by barocca View Post
    loading a different box - the nvidia8400 wont work online, works fine customs, and lan, but not online....

    brb
    I am supprised that any 8000 series card works at all on the custom or multiplayer battlefield, as they use a different screen format than pervious nvidia products.

    I just swaped dual 8800s for a set of 7600s, just so I could play this mod on my best machine.
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    Default Re: weekend testing 12/13 july 2008

    Good for you Tomisama
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