Forgotten war crime - Volhynia 1943

[KrooK]

I'm angry on our government, our "great" president and our "noble" parliament.

Yesterday was 65th anniversary of terrible war crime against Poland - genocide of Volhynia.
Before ww2 on that territory (today western Ukraine) Poles and Ukrainians lived together.
During ww2 Ukrainians supported Germans and fought against Russians.
Into 1943 when Russians started recapturing territories Ukrainians decided to clear territory of Volhynia.
They did not fight with polish resistance but concentrated on murdering polish civilians.
God one know how many Poles died - from 60 to 450 thousands. They were being killed into extremely cruel way - unknows into this part of Europe since XVIIth century. Far more cruel than anything that SS done. I have seen much into my life but I still can't even read about crimes done there.

Now politically corrected "f..." are trying to false history. They don't speak "genocide", they don't support people who want celebrate victims memory when same time they .... support festival of ukrainian minority in Poland. Into 65th anniversary!!!!!

Ukrainian government is doing same. Criminals from UPA commands whom commit that crime are called heroes and freedom fighters. If you ask me I hate communists but I agree that sending captured members of UPA do Russian GULAG camps was good.

I think that if Poland and Ukraine want normal neighbourship, war crime can't be forgotten and called "non-existing". And criminals should be punished.

[Tribesman]

For those who havn't a clue what Krook is ranting about , at the annual memorial service the President said that countries cannot be blamed for atrocities that are committed by individuals and groups .
I mean if nowadays Ukraine was to be blamed for the massacres of Poles in Volhynia then Poland must be blamed for the massacre of Ukrainians in Volhynia , both must be blamesd for the massacre of the ethnic germans and both for the massacre of the Jews .
So lets have a big
POLAND
(no offense intended towards normal rational Polish people)

[KrooK]

Sorry Tribesman

...I mean that its a shame that polish and ukrainian autorities are trying to hide truth under carpet due to political correction.

[Tribesman]

Sorry Krook but what is this political correctness you are on about , the only problem seems to be crazy nationalists on both sides blocking moves because they are insisting that their countries are they only ones who were right and the others are the only ones who were wrong .
Well apart from that little issue the agency had when by releasing files it embarrased people who were agents of the secret police .

[KrooK]

I'm talking that into 1943 Ukrainian nationalists murdered hundreds thousands of Poles.
Now polish government don't want take part into celebrating their memory.
Not accusing Ukraine (or Ukrainians as a nation) of anything but just celebrating memory of victims.

I'm angry because our president is supporting festival of ukrainian culture while he is not officially supporting scientifical conference about genocide into 1943 - both are planned on same day. I'm angry because Ukrainian minority in Poland can't find better day to make their festival than anniversary of massive killing of Poles done by Ukrainians.

I'm angry because some of Ukrainian politicians (for example big part of self government of city Lwow - Lviv) call war criminals from UPA (Ukrainian Rising Army) - one of SS formations - heroes and freedom fighters. To clear situation - even western allies called UPA war criminals and send their captured members to USSR.

I'm most angry when I'm hering something like "let's don't talk about that genocide because we can damage our relations with Ukraine". Our relations with Ukraine are ok now but not talking about truth can only damage them. If Poland want really good neighbourship with Ukraine, there should be only truth between our countries.

In the end I have small request to you.
Before you reply to every my post calling me polish nationalist - read my post first. You seem not to do that. Do you think that calling polish victims of UPA murderers (like you done into previous post) you are doing well.

[Tribesman]

Krook I didn't call Polish victims of Ukranian nationalist murderers , I called the polish fighters who slaughtered Ukranian civilians murderers .
You really seem confused , what are these SS units you are on about ?
The Ukranian rising certainly wasn't one , it fought the Germans Russian and Poles as well as other Ukranians .
The only Ukranians handed over to the Russians were those who fled from Slovakia into Austria and those that were captured fighting on the Western front , they were not handed over as war criminals they were handed over as part a contraversial deal with the Russians , unless of course you mean the ones British intelligence and the OSS were working with who were betrayed by a Soviet agent in the British establishment .