I'm sorry, Tribesman, you're right. I got ahead of myself. Latin American countries, for the most part, actually have pretty lax gun laws.
Hore Tore, I'm not comparing the US to 3rd world countries directly. My point was simply that were access to firearms the sole reason the United States had higher murder rates than France or Germany, you would expect nations with strict firearms laws to have low murder rates. In Jamaica, for example, you can get life in prison for having a gun in your house, but they have a higher murder rate than we do. If your point is that only Western European nations and the USA are worthy of considering, hey, be as snobby as you'd like, but personally, I like to look at all of humanity, not just the part of it that fits my arguments better. But hey, if you have to hear about Europeans, Canadians or Americans to trust the 'civilization' level, explain the situation of your neighbor Finland to me. They have laxer gun laws, a higher per capita ownership rate, and less violence.
Mmmm, maybe legalized gun ownership != murderers in the streets?
Edit: Apology retracted. To answer Tribesman's question: Mexico.
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