Another fun chart

**woad&fangs** · 07-12-2008, 01:58

You sure about that EMFM? Canada has 1/3 the number of guns per person compared to the US and Canada also has roughly 1/3 the homicide rate.

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 07-12-2008, 02:01

Originally Posted by woad&fangs

You sure about that EMFM? Canada has 1/3 the number of guns per person compared to the US and Canada also has roughly 1/3 the homicide rate.

Positive. Unregistered guns are everywhere in Canada.

**LittleGrizzly** · 07-12-2008, 04:00

Say you were in some interdimensional area and you knew that in a few moments you were going to enter the real world and be put in a situation where a certain number of people were going to threaten your life. You can choose between two worlds to enter, both with this same situation. Do you enter the one where you are allowed to own and carry guns (and for all you know are an expert) or one where you aren't (and might be a 5'2" woman about to be attacked by two large men)? Frankly, if you chose to enter a world where you wouldn't have a gun in that situation you're either a fool or a martyr.

Quite frankly its a few vs one and they determined to kill you your dead either way, unless your an expert with or without weapons but then thats cheating the example, i would probably go for the gunless place as at least i would have a chance to run away (you try throwing knives and tell me its easier than shooting someone running away

At the end of the day, it comes down to whether you believe a person has a right to protect themselves or not. It really is that simple.

Im happy to protect myself, if i really needed too im sure i would smash any number of hard objects into someones head, the reason im against guns is because i don't want the bad guys to walk around with them, if i had a gun and needed to shot someone to save myself or just about anyone really i would

Fireworks are similar to my mind.

I would say they are very different, people bring up quite a few examples as similar to gun ownership like fireworks and seatbelt laws, but the majority of the times these laws are to protect you from yourself whereas laws on gun ownership are to protect us from everyone else.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 07-12-2008, 06:02

Most of them in the US involve people who are already criminals and involved in drugs, and often happen in cities with bans on guns (NYC, Washington DC [still, the laws haven't changed yet], Chicago).

I don't think state comparisions are as valid as international ones due to the much easier transporting of weapons mainly...

Bah. Completely useless argument - why do the states with low gun control not have the same high crime rates?

CR

**LittleGrizzly** · 07-12-2008, 08:32

Bah. Completely useless argument - why do the states with low gun control not have the same high crime rates?

Well its not just the weapons that can be transported, criminals from states with lax gun control could go over to states with high gun control to commit thier crimes, which is another reason i think state comparisions are less valid, in one state there will be little to stop someone getting a gun, they can then just switch states and be in a state where there are very strict laws. The legal homeowner is now outgunned because of differences in state laws, i can't say im an expert but im fairly sure NYC is a pretty violent place anyway....

**Tribesman** · 07-12-2008, 08:47

Edit: Apology retracted. To answer Tribesman's question: Mexico.

Mexico hasn't banned guns , you are allowed shotguns , you are allowed rifles , you are allowed handguns .
Damn them things do kinda appear like guns to me .

Now of course there are restrictions , rifles must not be above .22 and hanguns not above .38 (though there is an extra clause there that does not allow .357 handguns)
Hey Don if you as an American want to go shooting down Mexcio way with your guns you can ,you have to get a permit though , you have to get a permit even if you are only carrying ammo and not a gun , there are big penalties for bringing a gun across the border without a permit , though those penalties have been reduced for first offences as they were having too many problems with gringos just forgetting they were packing when they went down south and 5 years for an unlicenced firearm was seen as a bit tough for genuine mistakes .
If in doubt contact your State Dept. and they will tell you about taking your toys out foriegn .

**Xiahou** · 07-12-2008, 09:30

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Now of course there are restrictions , rifles must not be above .22

In other words, they're banned. -.22?? I guess BB guns and pellet rifles are safe though.

**Tribesman** · 07-12-2008, 10:30

In other words, they're banned. -.22?? I guess BB guns and pellet rifles are safe though.

It seems like someone has a problem with the English language . If guns are allowed then it is pretty certin that a statement of guns are banned is best described as complete bollox

So a gun that takes the standard American sports gun cartridge = a gun ban

Tell me Xiahou , them soldier thingies out in Iraq , what calibre are their rifles ? are they .22 , .22 or.22 ?
Wow americas army doesn't have guns .
What a pathetic post you made Xiahou