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    Well, to be completely accurate, a .38 revolver can't fire .357 magnum rounds.
    But they used to , the .357 design was changed for exactly the reason that it fitted the same as a .38 special and the resuts could be unpleasant .

    Tribes is completely out of his depth here
    OK Mr smarty , when is a .22 not a .22 ? is it perhaps on the same occasion that a .45 isn't a .45 ?

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    Oh but rabbit I thought you was a gun fetishist surely you should know that the 222 (which is a .22) was the fatter but shorter round than the 223 by the same manufacturer who also made another version of the 222 (which was also a .22) but it was the same width as the .223 but longer .
    So if both versions of the 222 rounds are .22 calibre then the 223 is also a .22 calibre round even though it is thinner than one and shorter than the other .
    If it is a .22 round then the gun is a .22 gun , simple isn't it
    No, you're again wrong.

    A ".22" is only a .22 caliber round - most commonly the .22LR. It does not include every cartridge that starts with .22xxx under the sun. A .22 round is not a .223 round, and so .22 is not an umbrella term that fits a .223 or a .224 caliber.

    "can you see how that's different? Because it's a different number? Because it has a different number of digits? And how those different numbers mean different things? Do you understand that differently sized bullets are not the same?"
    I know , I took some of it from that Dave Kopel idiot on the second amendment project site , I knew I shouldn't have relied on a gun nut for accurate information .
    Don't go blaming others for your out-spoken ignorance.
    go on have a little look on the net and see if you can spot the RugerII and the HDM on it both of which are .22
    No. You provide the info that you are basing your posts on.

    And why can't you answer this question:

    How many guns in Mexico are chambered in a .22X caliber and achieve comparable results to the .223 Remington (equivalent to the cartridge used by the US) and are not used by any state forces (which would mean they can't be owned)?

    The standard tribesy question: are you being ignorant or obtuse?

    Well, let's move on, as its clear tribesy will argue a country that kills you on sight if you have anything but a one shot, .17 caliber derringer that took five years and 50k to acquire legally hasn't banned guns.

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    Oh what fun.... The article from the Mexico Law

    Quote Originally Posted by LEY FEDERAL DE ARMAS DE FUEGO Y EXPLOSIVOS

    Artículo 11.- Las armas, municiones y materia para el uso exclusivo del Ejército, Armada y Fuerza
    Aérea, son las siguientes:
    a).- Revólveres calibre .357 Magnum y los superiores a .38 Especial.
    b).- Pistolas calibre 9 mm. Parabellum, Luger y similares, las .38 Super y Comando, y las de calibres
    superiores.
    c).- Fusiles, mosquetones, carabinas y tercerolas en calibre .223, 7 mm., 7. 62 mm. y carabinas
    calibre .30 en todos sus modelos.
    d).- Pistolas, carabinas y fusiles con sistema de ráfaga, sub-ametralladoras, metralletas y
    ametralladoras en todos sus calibres.
    e).- Escopetas con cañón de longitud inferior a 635 mm. (25), las de calibre superior al 12 (.729 ó 18.
    5 mm) y las lanzagases, con excepción de las de uso industrial.
    f).- Municiones para las armas anteriores y cartuchos con artificios especiales como trazadores,
    incendiarios, perforantes, fumígenos, expansivos de gases y los cargados con postas superiores al 00
    (.84 cms. de diámetro) para escopeta.
    g).- Cañones, piezas de artillería, morteros y carros de combate con sus aditamentos, accesorios,
    proyectiles y municiones.
    h).- Proyectiles-cohete, torpedos, granadas, bombas, minas, cargas de profundidad, lanzallamas y
    similares, así como los aparatos, artificios y máquinas para su lanzamiento.
    i).- Bayonetas, sables y lanzas.
    j).- Navíos, submarinos, embarcaciones e hidroaviones para la guerra naval y su armamento.
    k).- Aeronaves de guerra y su armamento.
    l).- Artificios de guerra, gases y substancias químicas de aplicación exclusivamente militar, y los
    ingenios diversos para su uso por las fuerzas armadas.
    En general, todas las armas, municiones y materiales destinados exclusivamente para la guerra.
    Las de este destino, mediante la justificación de la necesidad, podrán autorizarse por la Secretaría de
    la Defensa Nacional, individualmente o como corporación, a quienes desempeñen empleos o cargos de
    la Federación, del Distrito Federal, de los Estados o de los Municipios.
    http://www.diputados.gob.mx/LeyesBiblio/pdf/102.pdf

    Basically what it says concerning the arguement about .223 caliber weapons is that the caliber is for the exculisive use of the military in Mexico.
    Last edited by Redleg; 07-13-2008 at 01:52.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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