crash reports please

**Orda Khan** · 07-15-2008, 09:25

I wouldn't rule out the hiccup with the net as a factor either. Didn't we get a crash where you and I were on the attacking side?
I will be online again, can't say an exact time as I have a few things I have to do but I will be coming along

.......Orda

**barocca** · 07-15-2008, 10:19

the net glitch was a sudden stop,
it seems there is ONE(1) cable between QLD and Sydney,
and 1(ONE) backup microwave dish,
the cable got cut by an excavator and as soon as the load was diverted to microwave the motherboard blew up,
QLD was in it's own little universe for much of the day BECAUSE Mobile and Landline phone services also rely on the fibre cable...
as soon as the cable was cut it was game over man...

TMS reports he cannot get 8.1, TMS or July_2008 to crash on LAN,
yet we have all seen them crash, when more than 2 player, on WAN,
the difference is we are using routers on WAN
(maybe we could hamachi mtw, but that will take some investigation)
while we have seen some large games work, we have also seen them crash,

i am looking at the mongol units and i cannot find missing files or data entries
(yet - I cannot guarantee they are 100% = not my area expertise),
so lets see if we can determine if the problem is hardware...

any ideas exactly HOW to do that?
(have assigned my machine a hard (lan/internal) IP and opened a range of ports on the router based around those required for mtw/vi and gamespy -that should cover all bases...)

**Puzz3D** · 07-15-2008, 12:57

The problem with 8.1 + TMS with more than 2 players when Mongols are used is a hard crash to desktop by all the players while the loading bar is on the screen as the game transitions to the battle map.

**barocca** · 07-15-2008, 13:20

but CTD does not happen on lan, tms all works fine,

i rewrote the unit prod and startpos file so that mongols are same religion, and we still got CTD online, yet all works on lan,

if tomorrows open ports test fails then the next thing i will do is give the mongol units to a jap faction and see what happens,

fankly there is not much to adding an existing unit to the game, remember these are medieval units, we are merely giving them to a different faction,
there is no obvious game related cause for the crash.
it does not happen in lan,
that leaves, to my mind, only one thing- hardware.

BY THE WAY, we all saw the devs run 3 players from 1 internet connection,
yet we cannot, (second player boots first player off gamespy and so on)
how did they do that???

**Jochi Khan** · 07-15-2008, 13:31

To add to the crash theory...

I am the player Hosting the games....

I reported during testing last night that I noticed that the Load Bar (the yellow) was only half way across when the game CDT. So in theory we didn't actually get to the 'battlefield'?

If need be, I have a Hamachi game setup. A few of us were using it online.
I haven't tried it online since using this router (BT HomeHub) but had set the Hamachi required ports.
It would need to be tested that my connection and games are visible

I will be online at 19.00 hrs (UK-BST) same as last night/early morning AUS.

A link for information ( it also says no router configuration required)
http://www.hamachi.cc

**Puzz3D** · 07-15-2008, 20:44

Originally Posted by Jochi Khan

To add to the crash theory...

I am the player Hosting the games....

I reported during testing last night that I noticed that the Load Bar (the yellow) was only half way across when the game CDT. So in theory we didn't actually get to the 'battlefield'?

No one got to the battlefield. A different host is needed to eliminate the host as the possible cause of the problem.

**barocca** · 07-16-2008, 01:12

with only Jochi, Orda and myself showing up to test things it is not possible to cover all the bases,
i will be away tomorrow morning and unable to take part in testing.

IN THE MEANTIME i will give the first japanese faction Mongol Units, and deny them japanese units,
i will also de-activate the mongol faction.
This will eliminate the units themselves as being the cause.

THEN options include
move the mongols to a different faction slot (thinking maybe fn_07 HAS TO BE pagan),
reinvestigate why pagan religion is not working (it should work,it works for viking faction),
then move the mongols back to slot 7 but with japanese units only,
then add mongol units to mongol faction.

i will be asking for assitance to test all these variants over the next couple of weeks,
so please stay near your PC's and ready to defend yourselves...
(i am afraid Jochi, Orda and I are getting rather "handy" with the current mongol lineup - gun duellists beware, you can be mangled by mongols)

**Jochi Khan** · 07-16-2008, 13:34

Originally Posted by Puzz3D

No one got to the battlefield. A different host is needed to eliminate the host as the possible cause of the problem.

Barocca can now host too. He had a reading of 25% when a CDT occured.

The time zones do make it difficult for all players to attend but, the more that can be online together at pre arranged times for testing the better. 3v3 and 4v4 may be an advantage.