What should an authentic Hellenistic army look like?

[Havok.]

KH is a hellenistic faction but it doesn't uses phalanxes as the main core of the army

[QuintusSertorius]

KH is a hellenistic faction but it doesn't uses phalanxes as the main core of the army

I mean more the Hellenistic Successors then; Makedonia, Seleukids, Ptolemies.

[Havok.]

I mean more the Hellenistic Successors then; Makedonia, Seleukids, Ptolemies.

XD
its ok
i guess what you did is basicly what i do as well
though, when the $$ is favorable, i'd stick with the medium phalanxes only
and i also carry along my armies, two elite units, since holding two flanks can prove a tough job to a regular phalanx

[jhhowell]

Based purely on effectiveness, all I'd say is drop a couple of phalanxes and pick up a couple more solid non-phalanx infantry. Hoplitai, Thorakitai, Galatian Klerouchoi, the various elites, whatever.

And ideally replace the toxotai with real archers (Cretans in the west, anything in the east).

No freakin' clue if that would be at all historical, but it would work well in-game. What you posted would too, I just prefer more flexibility and thus a smaller phalanx line.

[Havok.]

Based purely on effectiveness, all I'd say is drop a couple of phalanxes and pick up a couple more solid non-phalanx infantry. Hoplitai, Thorakitai, Galatian Klerouchoi, the various elites, whatever.

And ideally replace the toxotai with real archers (Cretans in the west, anything in the east).

No freakin' clue if that would be at all historical, but it would work well in-game. What you posted would too, I just prefer more flexibility and thus a smaller phalanx line.

Kretan Archers, said it all

[Gaivs]

Wouldnt Koinon Hellenon be considered Hellenic, not Hellenistic?

[Havok.]

Wouldnt Koinon Hellenon be considered Hellenic, not Hellenistic?

Ahh yes, pardon me on what i said above there

[teh1337tim]

2-4 elites on flank (royal guards or makedonian peltasti or w.e)
3-4pezehetairo
1-2 levy (deutoria, etc)
1-2 elite phalanx
2-4 thorikita- Theurophia as flank supporters
3-4 calvalry of medium-> heavy
rest with watever u like


side note
how do u spawn units in armies etc, i never got how 2 do it
i hate it when epirus just steamrolled all the way from ambrakia -> nikaia in 10 years and up to getai capitol
i wanna actually put makedonian and selekid armies somewhat balanced or effective at least (roman @ 251 bc, seleukid is half eaten up by batkria, but sabyn got 3 provinces next to jerusalem and syra koile so ceasefire, amazingly theyre beaten back the parthenians back to there home teritories)