Agoge questions

[Ludens]

Three questions relating to the Spartan agoge:

1) Which faction can have family members undergo the agoge? Just the western and eastern Greek factions or also Eastern ones like Pontos and Pahlava?

2) What type of government is required in Sparta if you want family members to undergo the agoge? I recall reading somewhere that for factions other than the KH it needs to be either type III or type IV, but someone told me it works under type II as well.

3) Why do the Spartan starting characters lack agoge-related traits? Is this to indicate that the Agoge has been suspended for some time and they have only just started it again?

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

1- Western Greek and Eastern Greek only, IIRC.
2- Any government should be fine.
3- There probably just weren't any edits done to the starting traits when the Agoge was first added to EB.

[Justinian II]

Three questions relating to the Spartan agoge:

1) Which faction can have family members undergo the agoge? Just the western and eastern Greek factions or also Eastern ones like Pontos and Pahlava?

2) What type of government is required in Sparta if you want family members to undergo the agoge? I recall reading somewhere that for factions other than the KH it needs to be either type III or type IV, but someone told me it works under type II as well.

3) Why do the Spartan starting characters lack agoge-related traits? Is this to indicate that the Agoge has been suspended for some time and they have only just started it again?

I was just about to ask these same questions, in reference to my current Eiperos Campaign: namely: what government, and whether Eiperos can even go through the Agoge.... I look forward to the answers

[Hegix]

I know from experience that KH, Maks and Epis can use it. But which factions count as Eastern Greeks in this case? For example, can Pontos, Seles, Ptolies and Baktrians all use the Agoge? It seems quite odd somehow that they would send their young halfway across the world for training.

[Fondor_Yards]

Eastern Greeks= Only Seleucids, Ptolemaics, and Baktrians I'm almost positive.

[Ludens]

1- Western Greek and Eastern Greek only, IIRC.
2- Any government should be fine.
3- There probably just weren't any edits done to the starting traits when the Agoge was first added to EB.

Thanks for the answers. Will these traits be included in EB 1.2?

Eastern Greeks= Only Seleucids, Ptolemaics, and Baktrians I'm almost positive.

Correct. Pontos are Hellenized easterners, nor eastern Hellenes.

[bovi]

Thanks for the answers. Will these traits be included in EB 1.2?

Only if someone can come up with how well they actually performed in the Agoge, I think. I suppose it would be pretty much as correct to say that all performed adequately as it is to say they didn't go through it, but a lacking trait at least doesn't convey any false information.