Ordination of female Catholic priests at Protestant church

[ICantSpellDawg]

Why, exactly, is my name bein taken in vain? Have I posted anything in this thread that was inaccurate or hostile to the Catholic Church? As for the slippery slope thread, are you referring to the one where the Baptists or the Mennonites were playing a double game, telling the government that a beach shack was public when they wanted repair grants, and then turning around and telling the lesbians it was private and religious? They got busted, the shack lost its tax-exempt status, end of story. As it turns out, there was no slope.

Anyway, if you're going to slander me, please be specific.

P.S.: I think the fact that the Bible contradicts itself is one of the greatest gifts Christianity has. Religions based on texts that can be treated as inerrant are dangerous, dangerous creatures.

I wasn't slandering you!
Don't you remember the recent discussion that we had in which you deplored the use of the term and concept of "the slippery-slope"?

You claimed that it wasn't a legitimate argument & I claimed that it was simply an elaborated discussion of consequence.

I'm sorry for using your name in vain, your high majesty

[Lemur]

Don't you remember the recent discussion that we had in which you deplored the use of the term and concept of "the slippery-slope"?

You claimed that it wasn't a legitimate argument & I claimed that it was simply an elaborated discussion of consequence.

Hmm, the "slippery slope" is a pretty well-established logical fallacy. You see it most commonly in the debate over gay marriage, with all sorts of outlandish and unlikely events being foretold if teh gayzorz are allowed to commit to lifelong pair bonding.

Anyway, forgive me for skimming this thread and not giving it the in-depth read it deserves, but I'm not even clear on how the slippery slope applies in this case. So some women got ordained outside of the Catholic Church, 'cause they want to be priests. Okay. Goofier things have been done. Just check out Pope John XII, who "gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife." The church survived him, so I think it can outlast some women whose activities fall entirely outside of orthodoxy.

I'm sorry for using your name in vain, your high majesty

Don't make me turn you into a pillar of salt.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The choice made is clearly schismatic.

This does NOT mean that these women have rejected God, only that they have rejected some of the teachings of Holy Mother Church. This is serious, but not necessarily damning.

Historically, any number of schisms have been resolved and the schismatic brought back to the fold. I pray these women will return to the church. Atonement and forgiveness are central to the faith.

According to the Gospels, many of Jesus' disciples were women. Moreover, the gospels assert that Jesus did not require women to conform stricly to the traditional model of "Kirk, Kurch, und Kinder." One sister derided another for not helping with the chores, choosing instead to listen and join in the discussion of the disciples and Jesus' took the part of the "non-traditional" sister.

So why were all of the Apostles male? I do not know.

[seireikhaan]

So why were all of the Apostles male? I do not know.

Lets see, because this is the first century A.D.? And because a female would almost certainly have been ignored/derided in such a position of prominence? Its one thing to be a tax collector, a whole other to be a woman.

[Rhyfelwyr]

@TuffStuff: OK, I just wanted to be sure you thought it was debatable. That's sorted then.

@Philipus: Do you not think you should put more trust in the scriptures?

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. (2 Tim 3:16-17)

[seireikhaan]

Personally, I see no reason for the Catholic church's position regarding married priests and female priests to continue. For one, the whole reason for the ban on priest's marriage(corruption with passing down property and position to offspring) is frankly, imo, non existent anymore. At the very least allowing priests to marry should be considered a conservative belief, getting back to the way things were originally, before the church got so corrupted thanks to Leo "the Great". As for female priests; I think there is no reason to forbid them. Are they not capable of being in touch with God? Are many of them not just as in touch with the needs and struggles of common people as the current priests? I frankly just don't see a need or reason to ban the consideration of a female for ordination.

*This comes from a Catholic, btw.