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    Default Polybian legion set up

    I don´t know if it´s entirely accurate but at he moment i´m using:

    2 Velite
    2 Principe
    2 Hastati
    1 Triarii

    I´m curious what´s your Polybian legion set up??
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    Default Re: Polybian legion set up

    currently it's:

    1 Commander
    1 Tribune
    1 Pedites Extrordinarii
    2 Hastati
    3 Principes
    2 Triarii
    2 Allied Light Inf.
    2 Allied Heavy Inf.
    1 Assenci
    1 Velites
    2 Allied Ranged troups
    2 Allied Cavalry (Equites Romani are AWFUL.)

    In the standard manipular formation. Although, in difference to the usual, I put the allied peeps in the middle, so as to catch people out in a cannae-type thing.

    Caught out a few people with that. Especially my mate. (I was in the other room, and all I could here was (WHAT THE $%&? WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? I'm SURROUNDED!. Hilarious.)
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    Default Re: Polybian legion set up

    As per my guide, a consular army is composed of two legions and two alae.

    A legion is roughly:
    1 skirmisher (Velites or Accensi)
    1 hastati
    1 principes
    1 triarii (half-sized)

    An ala is:
    1 skirmisher (peltastai, akontistai, iaosatae, etc)
    1 light infantry (Bruttians, Lucanians, etc)
    1 heavy infantry (Samnites, Neitos, etc)
    1 cavalry (Ligurians, Campanians, Curepos, etc)

    Add to two each of the above:
    1 General
    1 FM as equites and tribune
    1 pedites extraordinarii/Samnite Heavy infantry
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    Default Re: Polybian legion set up

    For a Polybian Full stack I use:

    4 Velites

    4 Hastati

    4 Princepes

    2 Triarii

    1 Pedites Extraordinarii

    1 Equites Extraordinarii

    2 Equites

    1 General

    That's a full Consular Army. No offence to Quintus et al but as far as I can see halving the number of Triarii is just a waste of unit slots as they usually operated in a massed pike block anyway.

    If you want a more ethnically diverse set up you halve the number of specifically Roman units (not the extraordinarii) and replace them with Greeks and Italics. I don't think it's generally appropriate to use Gauls or other Barbarians in a Consular Army unless you're in need of men, i.e. in Greece or Gaul with 4 turns until you get some new chaps from back home.
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    Default Re: Polybian legion set up

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    For a Polybian Full stack I use:

    4 Velites

    4 Hastati

    4 Princepes

    2 Triarii

    1 Pedites Extraordinarii

    1 Equites Extraordinarii

    2 Equites

    1 General

    That's a full Consular Army. No offence to Quintus et al but as far as I can see halving the number of Triarii is just a waste of unit slots as they usually operated in a massed pike block anyway.

    If you want a more ethnically diverse set up you halve the number of specifically Roman units (not the extraordinarii) and replace them with Greeks and Italics. I don't think it's generally appropriate to use Gauls or other Barbarians in a Consular Army unless you're in need of men, i.e. in Greece or Gaul with 4 turns until you get some new chaps from back home.
    I replace the Eq. Ex. with a Tribune, so when the tribune becomes a general himself, he'll have high Valour from repeated charges. I've heard high valour for Generals increases morale of troops, plus it's more historically accurate.

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    Default Re: Polybian legion set up

    I think that the tribunes actually don't get any benefits , since they are not in charge... once my tribune (who I used for 10 years as a tribune...) still had the "green" trait until the first battle he commanded
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    Quote Originally Posted by ||Lz3|| View Post
    I think that the tribunes actually don't get any benefits , since they are not in charge... once my tribune (who I used for 10 years as a tribune...) still had the "green" trait until the first battle he commanded
    I just have them there to use as heavy cavalry All the other roman stuff is awaful.

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    Default Re: Polybian legion set up

    Using an FM as both tribune and representing the equites (which were historically a smaller unit than the allied cavalry anyway) works very well.
    It began on seven hills - an EB 1.1 Romani AAR with historical house-rules (now ceased)
    Heirs to Lysimachos - an EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR with semi-historical houserules (now ceased)
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    Default Re: Polybian legion set up

    My legions usually consist of 10 units.

    1 General
    1 Calvary
    2 Hasati
    2 Principes
    1 Trarii
    1 Missile units (usually allied)
    2 Allied infantry

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