What the ......!?!

[chenkai11]

yes... its normal and it's not a bug , I think you can dissable it without killing your campaign (not 100% sure) open the EDCT and search for Family member then look at somewher were it says "hidden" and add this at the beggining ";"

ah, ok. I thought it must have something to do with the client ruler my FM received. Never saw that happen before.

But can I remove the client ruler trait that my Faction leader got?

[konny]

Only if "give_trait Type4Governor -1" works because the client ruler trait has no anti-traits. You may also try to add a ";" to the line "Effect MovementPoints -6" under the Type4Governor in export_descr_character_traits.txt. Usually changes in that file might screw up your save but I have read that adding and removing ";"s is save. (backup before!)

[Maion Maroneios]

I got exactly the same in my Makedonia campaign, completely ruining it. I had just captured Sparte with an army led by Alexandros Argeades and as soon as I installed a type 4 governement, the next turn he got the client ruler trait. Now I keep my FM's away from free governed cities. It seems that only FM's that have the ''Family Memeber'' trait don't get affected by this, as I have a certain Perseus undergoing the Spartan Agoge, without getting the ''Client Ruler'' trait.

[Kromulan]

I once had a client spawn with the same name as a spy I was using. The spy wound up with the client ruler trait and I got a new cavalry general (I was Saba, so that was odd).
I just destroyed the type 4 gov and installed a new one and the new client worked fine.
Poor spy was stranded, unable to move, in the middle of the desert, however. . .

[LorDBulA]

For people whose family member are getting client ruler trait and are using Client Ruler fix make sure you have properly installed fix. All fm descr_start characters should have FamilyMember trait.
If you installed other fix that has descr_start.txt file over Client ruler fix then you have broken client ruler fix.

Also Client Ruler fix is for Rome Total War game. If you are using extensions like BI you have to mod this fix to be compatible with extension. Otherwise all starting characters will get Client Ruler trait after spending 1 turn in gov4 settlement.

[Senshi]

Also Client Ruler fix is for Rome Total War game. If you are using extensions like BI you have to mod this fix to be compatible with extension. Otherwise all starting characters will get Client Ruler trait after spending 1 turn in gov4 settlement.

Uhm, what changes are to be done exactly to get it work with BI? My KH empire has grown to an extent where most outlying regions are required to be LvlIV govs for public order and it is VERY annoying to get masses of client rulers every time one of my armies returns from campaign in hostile territories to refresh and replenish my FMs being forced into client rulers kinda sucks. Especially if there is another leader already there and I get spammed with Interloper traits etc. as well -_-

Would be cool if you could tell what has to be written differently or where to copy text paragraphs from

[chenkai11]

For people whose family member are getting client ruler trait and are using Client Ruler fix make sure you have properly installed fix. All fm descr_start characters should have FamilyMember trait.
If you installed other fix that has descr_start.txt file over Client ruler fix then you have broken client ruler fix.

I did make sure the client ruler fixed was the last installed.

Also Client Ruler fix is for Rome Total War game. If you are using extensions like BI you have to mod this fix to be compatible with extension. Otherwise all starting characters will get Client Ruler trait after spending 1 turn in gov4 settlement.

I am using ALX.exe, and yes I notice that FM after spending 1 turn in settlement will get that client ruler trait. How do I make it compatible then?

Too many wierd things happened. Invisible army, clone FM, client ruler trait...... The engine can't handle the EB design anymore....

[LorDBulA]

Client ruler fix changes descr_strat.txt file. To make EB compatible with BI you have to move this file to different folder, I suspect something similar must be also done for ALEX.
Check out EB for BI or ALEX guides for details.

[Havok.]

I once had a client spawn with the same name as a spy I was using. The spy wound up with the client ruler trait and I got a new cavalry general (I was Saba, so that was odd).
I just destroyed the type 4 gov and installed a new one and the new client worked fine.
Poor spy was stranded, unable to move, in the middle of the desert, however. . .

That is sick and totally bizar @_@

[Reverend Joe]

Poor spy was stranded, unable to move, in the middle of the desert, however. . .

"I command you to rule this sand dune!"