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Bosnian Serb indicted for Srebrenica massacre caught after 12 years on run
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One of the world's most wanted men, the former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic, was arrested last night in Serbia after more than 12 years on the run from charges of genocide and war crimes.
The man indicted for the Srebrenica massacre and the Sarajevo siege, among other war crimes, was arrested by Serbian security officers and taken before a war crimes court in Belgrade, according to a statement from the office of the Serbian president, Boris Tadic.
According to initial reports, Karadzic had been under surveillance for several weeks after a tip-off from an unnamed foreign intelligence agency, and had been picked up in Belgrade. Last night he was undergoing a formal identification process, including DNA testing, and was scheduled to meet investigators overnight.
The man indicted for the Srebrenica massacre and the Sarajevo siege, among other war crimes, was arrested by Serbian security officers and taken before a war crimes court in Belgrade, according to a statement from the office of the Serbian president, Boris Tadic.
According to initial reports, Karadzic had been under surveillance for several weeks after a tip-off from an unnamed foreign intelligence agency, and had been picked up in Belgrade. Last night he was undergoing a formal identification process, including DNA testing, and was scheduled to meet investigators overnight.
About time. 
This guy can rot in a hell-hole of a prison
Oh, he's not going to rot for too long, CA. He'll get the Saddam treatment.
We will see how history judges him. Showtrial rock on.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
Showtrial rock on.
Indeed.Showtrial rock on.
Good on them, though.
Originally Posted by makaikhaan:
Oh, he's not going to rot for too long, CA. He'll get the Saddam treatment.
Another YouTube Star in the making!Oh, he's not going to rot for too long, CA. He'll get the Saddam treatment.
Originally Posted by :
Oh, he's not going to rot for too long, CA. He'll get the Saddam treatment.
Oh, he's not going to rot for too long, CA. He'll get the Saddam treatment.
Originally Posted by :
Another YouTube Star in the making!
in case you two didn't notice , most civilised countries gave up on capital punishment .Another YouTube Star in the making!
Originally Posted by Tribesman:
in case you two didn't notice , most civilised countries gave up on capital punishment .
That leaves a question whether a country where someone like him was a military leader is behaving very civilised but if I'm not mistaken Serbia changed since then which is probably why they arrested him so I would deem it possible that they do not have capital punishment anymore.in case you two didn't notice , most civilised countries gave up on capital punishment .
Originally Posted by Husar:
That leaves a question whether a country where someone like him was a military leader is behaving very civilised but if I'm not mistaken Serbia changed since then which is probably why they arrested him so I would deem it possible that they do not have capital punishment anymore.
Military leader? Of Serbia? That leaves a question whether a country where someone like him was a military leader is behaving very civilised but if I'm not mistaken Serbia changed since then which is probably why they arrested him so I would deem it possible that they do not have capital punishment anymore.
Have you any idea who Karadzic is?
Anyway, the interesting thing here is that he will apparently go on trial in Belgrade, not The Hague. Subsidiarity in action.
Originally Posted by Adrian II:
Military leader? Of Serbia?
Have you any idea who Karadzic is?
It says Bosnian Serb leader in the quote in the OP but I admit I never delved deep into the conflict as, I guess, everyone knows now. Military leader? Of Serbia?
Have you any idea who Karadzic is?
Radovan Karadžić used to be President of the Republika Srpska, the Serbian political entity within Bosnia. He was Serbian President Slobodan Milošević's big ally in Bosnia. The military commander of Republika Srpska at the time was General Ratko Mladic.
Originally Posted by Husar:
It says Bosnian Serb leader in the quote in the OP but I admit I never delved deep into the conflict as, I guess, everyone knows now.
He was a political leader in the serbian part of bosnia.It says Bosnian Serb leader in the quote in the OP but I admit I never delved deep into the conflict as, I guess, everyone knows now.
Good news:
Perhaps this one won’t die in jail…
Finally perhaps real questions and answers will be ask and answer.
I can’t wait his lawyers questioning all the evidences and unfortunately being able to refute them.
Siege of Sarajevo: Well, what difference with the siege of Faludja by the US troops few years ago… And at least some food and medicaments were delivered to the town…
Srebrenica: Where are the bodies?
Concentration camps: Where? Even Kouchner had to admit they never exist as such…
Systematic Rapes Campaign: Even The Hague abandoned this charge long time ago…
Not that he was a good and nice guy. Yes, he was one of the actors of the Ethnic Cleansing.
I hope we will have a nice and clean trial where Justice will prevail and truth will emerge, out of our Media Propaganda figures.
Perhaps this one won’t die in jail…
Finally perhaps real questions and answers will be ask and answer.
I can’t wait his lawyers questioning all the evidences and unfortunately being able to refute them.
Siege of Sarajevo: Well, what difference with the siege of Faludja by the US troops few years ago… And at least some food and medicaments were delivered to the town…
Srebrenica: Where are the bodies?
Concentration camps: Where? Even Kouchner had to admit they never exist as such…
Systematic Rapes Campaign: Even The Hague abandoned this charge long time ago…
Not that he was a good and nice guy. Yes, he was one of the actors of the Ethnic Cleansing.
I hope we will have a nice and clean trial where Justice will prevail and truth will emerge, out of our Media Propaganda figures.
Originally Posted by Brenus:
Srebrenica: Where are the bodies?
Are you actually serious about this?Srebrenica: Where are the bodies?
Originally Posted by Brenus:
Srebrenica: Where are the bodies?
Many have been recovered over the years, if not all identified. They have been found in mass graves with eyes blindfolded, hands bound, and lethal bullet wounds, some bullets demonstrably of machine gun calibre. The total number of bodies found in mass graves in Kamenica Valley alone tops 4000. There are witnesses to all stages of the deportation and killings of Srebrenica inhabitants. There is no doubt that it was mass murder.Srebrenica: Where are the bodies?
I think (But I am admittedly not sure) that Brenus was impersonating the defense team of Karadzic.
Originally Posted by Adrian II:
Radovan Karadžić used to be President of the Republika Srpska, the Serbian political entity within Bosnia. He was Serbian President Slobodan Milošević's big ally in Bosnia. The military commander of Republika Srpska at the time was General Ratko Mladic.
Well, since he is indicted for a massacre, a siege and other war crimes I thought it wasn't too far off to think he was some kind of military leader but in many places the lines between politicians and military leaders are pretty blurred I guess. Radovan Karadžić used to be President of the Republika Srpska, the Serbian political entity within Bosnia. He was Serbian President Slobodan Milošević's big ally in Bosnia. The military commander of Republika Srpska at the time was General Ratko Mladic.
It's a good thing he was caught anyway though.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Are you actually serious about this?
Yet to be refuted; http://www.amazon.com/Ratko-Mladic-T...6685786&sr=8-1Are you actually serious about this?
Friend of mine was there in sebrenica, the only thing he regrets is that they didn't get them all. That is all he ever wanted to say about it.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
Friend of mine was there in sebrenica, the only thing he regrets is that they didn't get them all. That is all he ever wanted to say about it.
That's pure evil.Friend of mine was there in sebrenica, the only thing he regrets is that they didn't get them all. That is all he ever wanted to say about it.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
That's pure evil.
You know nothing, that's the other thing he alwayssays. He's not an evil guy, quite the contrary. It weren't exactly innocent lambs that got butchered, good riddance. That's pure evil.
http://www.amazon.com/Jihad-Trail-Po.../dp/0674008774
chapter 7 I believe, 'the faillure to craft jihad in eastern europe'.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
You know nothing, that's the other thing he alwayssays. He's not an evil guy, quite the contrary.
Yes, of course we're all blinded by the liberal media.You know nothing, that's the other thing he alwayssays. He's not an evil guy, quite the contrary.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
It weren't exactly innocent lambs that got butchered, good riddance.
That's must be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. 8000 civilians got murdered, frags. Forget your raving anti-muslim crusade for a second, and think about that.It weren't exactly innocent lambs that got butchered, good riddance.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Yes, of course we're all blinded by the liberal media.
Yep.Yes, of course we're all blinded by the liberal media.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
That's must be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. 8000 civilians got murdered, frags. Forget your raving anti-muslim crusade for a second, and think about that.
Come on HoreTore, they are clearly less than human.That's must be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. 8000 civilians got murdered, frags. Forget your raving anti-muslim crusade for a second, and think about that.
Seriously though Fragony, you can't possibly blame the 'liberal' media for this?
Originally Posted by CountArach:
Seriously though Fragony, you can't possibly blame the 'liberal' media for this?
Quite. Actually he told me a lot more but I don't want to get him into trouble, it comes down to this: you know nothing. He has seen plenty of atrocities alright, we backed the wrong folks.Seriously though Fragony, you can't possibly blame the 'liberal' media for this?
Originally Posted by :
Quite. Actually he told me a lot more but I don't want to get him into trouble, it comes down to this: you know nothing. He has seen plenty of atrocities alright, we backed the wrong folks.
Quite. Actually he told me a lot more but I don't want to get him into trouble, it comes down to this: you know nothing. He has seen plenty of atrocities alright, we backed the wrong folks.
Whatever next , support for the liquidation of the warsaw ghetto because some of them jews done some nasty stuff
“Many have been recovered over the years, if not all identified. They have been found in mass graves with eyes blindfolded, hands bound, and lethal bullet wounds, some bullets demonstrably of machine gun calibre. The total number of bodies found in mass graves in Kamenica Valley alone tops 4000. There are witnesses to all stages of the deportation and killings of Srebrenica inhabitants. There is no doubt that it was mass murder.”
Adrian, I actually disagree: We have some images and witnesses of massacre that happened but no real evidences…
Graves were found but figures don’t add up.
The facts are:
Accepted/Media figures: 7000-8000 men and boys killed
Bodies founded: 2 442.
The fact is the bodies buried in the Srebrenica Memorial Complex are not all killed in July 1995, when the alleged genocide took place, including cases of people who died natural deaths a full 13 years before the event took place. Ok, that according a Serbian Historian, Milivoje Ivanisevic but …
Now from Alexandar Pavic Article:
“In the summer of 2005, on the 10-year anniversary of the event, the "Srebrenica Research Group," composed of mostly American and British media and academic figures, as well as former U.N. civil officials and military observers with ex-Yugoslavia experience, put up a website in which the entire "Srebrenica massacre" account was reconsidered and demystified.
Instead of the 7-8,000 figure, U.N. officials and U.S. Congress experts were quoted giving figures of "700-800," "the low hundreds," "about 2,000 Muslims and Serbs total," etc. Henry Wieland, head of the U.N. Human Rights Commission, who spent days interviewing Srebrenica refugees in July 1995, is quoted as saying that he did not find "anyone who'd seen any atrocity committed with their own eyes."
So, yes, Karadic lawyers will do well with this.
“I have ever heard. 8000 civilians got murdered”
So his lawyers will challenge that. Civilians? Some of their families received Social Benefit as Veteran Benefit.
8000? Where are the bodies?
What about the Military Operations of Oric against the Serbs village? It was not a disarmed safe area but a military base…
I really hope we will be able to follow the trial…
Adrian, I actually disagree: We have some images and witnesses of massacre that happened but no real evidences…
Graves were found but figures don’t add up.
The facts are:
Accepted/Media figures: 7000-8000 men and boys killed
Bodies founded: 2 442.
The fact is the bodies buried in the Srebrenica Memorial Complex are not all killed in July 1995, when the alleged genocide took place, including cases of people who died natural deaths a full 13 years before the event took place. Ok, that according a Serbian Historian, Milivoje Ivanisevic but …
Now from Alexandar Pavic Article:
“In the summer of 2005, on the 10-year anniversary of the event, the "Srebrenica Research Group," composed of mostly American and British media and academic figures, as well as former U.N. civil officials and military observers with ex-Yugoslavia experience, put up a website in which the entire "Srebrenica massacre" account was reconsidered and demystified.
Instead of the 7-8,000 figure, U.N. officials and U.S. Congress experts were quoted giving figures of "700-800," "the low hundreds," "about 2,000 Muslims and Serbs total," etc. Henry Wieland, head of the U.N. Human Rights Commission, who spent days interviewing Srebrenica refugees in July 1995, is quoted as saying that he did not find "anyone who'd seen any atrocity committed with their own eyes."
So, yes, Karadic lawyers will do well with this.
“I have ever heard. 8000 civilians got murdered”
So his lawyers will challenge that. Civilians? Some of their families received Social Benefit as Veteran Benefit.
8000? Where are the bodies?
What about the Military Operations of Oric against the Serbs village? It was not a disarmed safe area but a military base…
I really hope we will be able to follow the trial…
Originally Posted by Fragony:
Quite. Actually he told me a lot more but I don't want to get him into trouble, it comes down to this: you know nothing. He has seen plenty of atrocities alright, we backed the wrong folks.
Fragony, just because the bosnians did terrible things is NO EXCUSE to massacre them back.Quite. Actually he told me a lot more but I don't want to get him into trouble, it comes down to this: you know nothing. He has seen plenty of atrocities alright, we backed the wrong folks.
Those involved in serbian massacres should be punished, and those involved in bosnian massacres should be punished. Capiche?
And you can't possibly tell me that someone who rounds up 8000 random civilians and executes all of them is a nice guy. There is no possible justification for such an act whatsoever. It will always be evil. And if your serbian friend supports such things, he is a best a retard.
I think his friend is one of the Duch soldiers the Netherlands send there.
Originally Posted by Conradus:
I think his friend is one of the Dutch soldiers the Netherlands send there.
And a charming fellow he must be... I think his friend is one of the Dutch soldiers the Netherlands send there.
Yes, and it reinforces what a friend of mine who was there (and no doubt of higher rank than Fragony's
) told me, i.e. that the Dutch troops in Srebrenica were a bunch of ill-prepared amateurs compared to, for instance, the British, French and Danish contingents in Bosnia.Brenus, your reasoning doesn't stand up to elementary scrutiny by a court of law. The victims were dispersed in groups over a wide area, prior to being killed in more or less remote spots. The fact that not all of them have been exhumed and properly identified does not detract from the intentionality, the systematic nature or the mass scale of this murder. I share your feelings about the ineptitude and lack of balance of the court in The Hague, but that shouldn't tempt us into denying crimes of this magnitude.
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