Quite. Actually he told me a lot more but I don't want to get him into trouble, it comes down to this: you know nothing. He has seen plenty of atrocities alright, we backed the wrong folks.
Whatever next , support for the liquidation of the warsaw ghetto because some of them jews done some nasty stuff![]()
Fragony, just because the bosnians did terrible things is NO EXCUSE to massacre them back.
Those involved in serbian massacres should be punished, and those involved in bosnian massacres should be punished. Capiche?
And you can't possibly tell me that someone who rounds up 8000 random civilians and executes all of them is a nice guy. There is no possible justification for such an act whatsoever. It will always be evil. And if your serbian friend supports such things, he is a best a retard.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
I think his friend is one of the Duch soldiers the Netherlands send there.
And a charming fellow he must be...
Yes, and it reinforces what a friend of mine who was there (and no doubt of higher rank than Fragony's) told me, i.e. that the Dutch troops in Srebrenica were a bunch of ill-prepared amateurs compared to, for instance, the British, French and Danish contingents in Bosnia.
Brenus, your reasoning doesn't stand up to elementary scrutiny by a court of law. The victims were dispersed in groups over a wide area, prior to being killed in more or less remote spots. The fact that not all of them have been exhumed and properly identified does not detract from the intentionality, the systematic nature or the mass scale of this murder. I share your feelings about the ineptitude and lack of balance of the court in The Hague, but that shouldn't tempt us into denying crimes of this magnitude.
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Quite. Certainly not amateurs but the geniusses in the Hague wanted a low-key mission, so no heavy arms that doesn't really do much against tanks. He's lucky to be alive, don't blame the soldiers for the politicians. And the actual numbers are a bit off because a lot of the people captured came from afghanistan, pakistan, didn't you know that?![]()
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And the fact is the Serbian government after long denying any role in the events says over 7800 were done away with and the Bosnian serb government apologises for the mass murder and puts the figure at 8732The facts are:
Accepted/Media figures: 7000-8000 men and boys killed
Bodies founded: 2 442.
The fact is the bodies buried in the Srebrenica Memorial Complex are not all killed in July 1995, when the alleged genocide took place, including cases of people who died natural deaths a full 13 years before the event took place. Ok, that according a Serbian Historian, Milivoje Ivanisevic but …
“Brenus, your reasoning doesn't stand up to elementary scrutiny by a court of law. The victims were dispersed in groups over a wide area, prior to being killed in more or less remote spots. The fact that not all of them have been exhumed and properly identified does not detract from the intentionally, the systematic nature or the mass scale of this murder. I share your feelings about the ineptitude and lack of balance of the court in The Hague, but that shouldn't tempt us into denying crimes of this magnitude.”
Well, I do think his lawyers will do it. I do think that if somebody is accused of a crime, if no bodies are found, it will stand scrutiny.
I was recovering from a mission when it happened, and I was told that the victims were put in buses, the executed.
Now, you are telling me that they were dispersed in groups: Lawyers will go on that.
They will go for the fact that from 20 000 initial victims, we are now from 5000- 4000 (1000 difference !!!), and accounted bodies is around 2000 – 3000.
They will challenge the Genocide.
What make me furious (and do remember I was there during the First Offensive, and for Zepa) is without exaggeration, we could still prosecute Karadic. War crime, mass murder, etc, but in presenting charges which shouldn’t stand, we just give him the opportunity to “escape”.
I am quite sure he will be sentence, but on wrong charges.
Like Milosevic.
When I was negotiating with Kraesnic in Pale, I was amazed by the amount of hate displayed by his translator towards the Muslims, her former neighbours.
No body denies (even the Serbs) the intention. But we speak of justice, and the reasons of why it happened.
We’ve got Karadic, I want Mladic.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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Sneaky disguise. It is definitely good that they caught him at long last.
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